Senator Lieberman (CfL-CT), Rep. Simmons (R-CT), and Gov. Rell (R-CT), who all share Republican pollster Neil Newhouse, will be campaigning in Groton today to commemorate the year anniversary of the Pentagon's reversal of its decision to close the sub base.
I can't make it there, but if anyone can, post descriptions in the comments and email pictures to post...
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Three people running for office in less than three months, two of whom are locked in extremely close elections, are making a public appearance that touts their work keeping the base off the closing list... To me, thats a campaign stop. Please feel free to disagree...
Mark Pazniokas:
Lieberman will appear with two prominent Republicans, Gov. M. Jodi Rell and U.S. Rep. Rob Simmons, R-2nd, to celebrate last year's reversal of a Pentagon decision to close the Groton submarine base.
I didn't say it was a rally. It also is not a ball, a meet and a greet, or a parade.
The point is that it's an event meant to provide the attending politicians with an opportunity to polish their lapel and add it to their accomplishments resume. Lieberman, like Simmons & Rell, will (continue to) use the Groton base as a talking point for his campaign.
When Lieberman hypes an event that is also a talking point on Simmons' media sheet, he's effectively hyping Simmons. More explicitly, any time he stands next to someone running for office he's supporting their campaign. Period.
I'm not really sure what you are insinuating. Every public event by a candidate leading up to an election is a campaign event... When did I imply otherwise?
You just discovedred that politicians do things for their political interests? This must be a big day for you...
You lost me - did Blumenthal sue a cartoon character? Or are you just making stuff up?
I might remind you that his job is to sue people. No one's job is to tout their accomplishments. That is what they do to get elected.
And, if Blumenthal happens to do it on a stage with a politician whose opponent he has endorsed, twice, from the opposite party to the one he claims to be a loyal member of, yeah, you will be the first one to read it here.
A Different Anonymous (No! Really!)SAID, " So, next week, when Blumenthal sues Acme Co. on behalf of Wile E. Coyote" I mean honestly, have you people SEEN the products Acme puts out? inferior at best.
Blumenthal had a pres conference???
Blumie hasn't sued any cartoon characters yet, but it's probably only because he hadn't thought of it. Now that the good ole Brits have decided to hack up classic cartoons to eliminate smoking, I'm sure he'll be able to bring some sort of action, combining 'protecting our children' and going after Big, Bad Tobacco once again!
I understood, I was commenting on the absurdity of a hypothetical. See above, every politician does what they do for political reasons. Call it what ever your little heart desires...
ADANR & Gabe -
Are you guys married to each other? Your pointless bickering with one of another sure does give that impression. (My apologies to happily married non-bickering couples everywhere.)
Of course it's a campaign event. And of course, attending is a perfectly legitimate part of their official duties. Incumbents get this kind of free media event for their campaigns all the time. Nothing sinister about that at all.
And yes, when the Attorney General sues ACME, his campaign will get free exposure out of it as well. It'll also be another reason to vote for him since it's about time those jerks were held accountable for all the inferior, unsafe products they put on the market. Rocket powered rollerskates? Earthquake pills? Seriously, those guys need to be shut down before they kill someone. I'm glad Dick's on the case.
Back to reality. It's not just free media exposure their campaigns gain from this event. An invitation-only meeting at the secure location of a Nuke plant is a golden opportunity for Rell, Simmons and Lieberman to discuss GOTV coordination without fear of prying eyes. (Or bloggers.)
Blue Coat wrote: "It's a campaign stop otherwise Nancy Pelosi who is in the area would have stopped by two - and on a more serious note: if it's not a campaign stop then why isn't Chris Dodd in the meeting???"
You guys want to go back and forth about being a campaign event and duties of office, well Dodd was invited and he should of been there. But let's think this one over very quickly, I don't think you will find one public event, place, anywhere except Capitol Hill where Dodd and Lieberman will be found together. And even at that I bet Dodd still avoids being anywhere near him.
The truth is you can kiss any shot the Dodd would have at a Presidential bid in '08 (if he has any right now) and also you could kiss his seat goodbye in his next re-election if there is even one picture of him, Joe Liebermen together especially with possibly having Jodi Rell and Rob Simmons in it as well. Which we all have learned from the primary results, it's not about what you do, it's about who you're with.
I'm being serious, expect a primary for Dodd's seat if he was to be in picture with any of them. We'll see him again after this election and when his Presidential bid falls short and he decides he beter pay attention to us again if he wants to keep this seat.
Grumpy said "Back to reality. It's not just free media exposure their campaigns gain from this event. An invitation-only meeting at the secure location of a Nuke plant is a golden opportunity for Rell, Simmons and Lieberman to discuss GOTV coordination without fear of prying eyes. (Or bloggers.)"
GOTV?? I wonder where you might work.
This is just another example of people willing to put aside where they come from, which party they represent to make sure they are doing all they can for who they serve. Keeping the base open is a very important part of serving the people of Connecticut, especially those who rely on jobs specific to having our base remina open. That's why we have these 3 are where they are now and also why where they will remain where they are.
Does anyone have the address for getting in on the class-action suit the State's filing against ACME?
To all of those who claim this is just a campaign stop and further evidence of Lieberman's joining the Republican party, let me ask you this:
Gov. Rell has been holding numerous bill signing ceremonies around the state and at every one there are Democratic legislators - are they all traitors too?
Anon1:55--
Thanks for the shot of high-minded rhetoric in the midst of an election year. I'm glad that while most of us see this as rank electioneering, you see it as something noble and worthy.
The fact is we just couldn't count on Democrats like Courtney and Lamont to keep the Sub Base, now could we? And ohmigod, if DeStefano were Governor, kiss the economy good-bye.
You've bought into a load of bunk. And effectively, by propagating stupid stereotypical notions, you're as knee-deep in the political mud as the rest of us. (only comically, you don't seem to know it.)
Republicans aren't the Party of high-minded purpose, and Democrats are as tough, if not tougher, on economic issues and National Security.
Just like I said Lieberman is a Republican and if he loves Democrats so much how come he is not hellping Democrats win in Connecticut.
Lieberman knowns exactly what he is doing and he his telling us that he's a Republican its that simple.
Bush and Cheney must be very pleased a good photo op before he becomes Republican officially in 2007.
Of course Senator Lieberman has effectively "joined the Republican team." He wants to win, so he'd be foolish not to coordinate with them.
Joe's plan to win must include strong turnout among R's and I's. But he needs those votes to go to him, not Schlesinger. Therefore, coordinating with the R's is vital to his strategy. For their part, with Rell able to take a vaction from now until election day and still win by 20 points, Joe's coat tails are a lot more valuable than hers to Simmons, Johnson and Shays.
Anon 1:55 - Absolutely. All involved earned the credit for their work to protect the base. I think my earlier post indicated that I believe today's event is a perfectly legitimate part of their official duties. That it also doubles as a great campaign event is an undeniable benefit of incumbency. Again, there's nothing sinister about that fact.
Sadly, I can't tell you who I work for because my boss would fry my nuts for posting on this blog. (And for doing so when I have more productive things to do with my time...) I will say I don't work for any of the candidates, or their opponents, mentioned in this thread. Believe that statement, or not, as you will.
DR -
I wonder, are you familiar with the phrase "argumentum ad hominem"?
ANON 2:39-
I'll take you at your word for your statements and to be honest my boss would probably do more then fry my nuts too.
As for the coordinating with the R's, while it would serve to his benefit and I agree that his candidacy will most likely have a positive effect to the R's attempting to hold their House seat. However, I'm not sure how much I buy actual coordination between Joe and Nancy, Chris and Rob. Joe really seems like he wants to remain in the D cacus should he win, anything that might jeopordize that for him or his leadership positions I do not see him going for.
ANON 217:
I'm not trying to give any kind of rhetoric here, I'm just trying to contribute other ideas then your own, which I thought that was the point of posting comments on here, but I could be wrong.
I guess what I said could be taken out of context, there is no doubt that there is a value to each current office holders current campaigns (I'd be ignorant to dispute that). However, to take this meeting today and say it's purely a campaign stunt I strongly disagree. I'd like to think our leaders actually have an interest in keeping our sub base here from future BRAC proceedings, which is going to happen again.
Dear Alan Gold,
Thank you for making me look like a genius!
-Jack Orchuli
The Democratic party is about to implode. Wait until Lieberman is the endorsed Republican.
I just ran a poll with one of my students, Vincent Barbarino, in place of Alan Schlesinger on the Republican ticket. He pulled 8% in a 3 way. When informed that Arnold Horshack had endorsed Mr. Barbarino, that number moved to 9%.
Barbarino for Senate.
Where in gods name are Harry Reid's cojones? Somebody needs to stop Lieberman before its too late...
Too late for what? Before it's too late to beat him? Yeah, that should be a compelling argument to get him to drop out.
Orchulli !!!!!!!!!!!!
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