Thursday, August 10, 2006

DeStefano vs. Rell

Remember the governor's race? Dan Malloy lost a close one. John DeStefano somehow survived.

How? Why?

Newspapers are saying that DeStefano’s labor support helped to put him over the top, but it’s worth pointing out that DeStefano had the lion’s share of the unions. Malloy, on the other hand, had almost no union support—but still came within 4,000 votes of DeStefano. Republicans are arguing that this means the unions’ power is waning. It’s more likely that without such strong union support, DeStefano would have lost by 10,000 or more—so they still matter.

That doesn’t bode well for the general election. Union support matters a lot less in November than it does in Democratic primaries.

Mary Glassman’s surprising victory—the most decisive win out of all the statewide races—is probably the best thing to happen to the Democrats on Tuesday. DeStefano’s candidacy is much enhanced by her presence. How to explain it? Glassman won by a significant margin in almost every town in Connecticut. Maybe women voters were sending a message to the Democratic Party, or maybe this really was Audrey Blondin’s revenge. Then again, maybe people just didn’t like Scott Slifka. There’s probably some truth to all three, although the first may have been the biggest factor. Regardless, DeStefano/Glassman is a more viable ticket than DeStefano/Slifka.

Of course, that ticket will now have to deal with Jodi Rell (and her LG pick, what’s-his-name), who is still a popular governor after two years. Voters like Rell, and not just because she isn’t John Rowland. DeStefano will have to convince voters that the state is in the middle of all kinds of crises that Rell is doing nothing about in order to win. Luckily for Rell, that’s not actually true. Connecticut isn’t doing great—but neither are things as bad as they were in 1990. The biggest catastrophe that could have befallen the state—the closure of the Groton Sub Base—was averted in large part because of the efforts of Rell and other Republicans like Rob Simmons. There has also been significant campaign finance reform, again largely thanks to Rell. Without her support and constant pushing, I seriously doubt the Democrat-led General Assembly would have passed such a strong bill. Rell has disappointed on several fronts, to be sure, including serious property tax reform, health care and ethics. But by and large, voters think she’s doing a good job. DeStefano has been trying to convince them for two years that she’s a failure as a governor. His message has yet to catch on—and, with only three months to go and not a lot of money to play with, it may never.

Then again, Connecticut politics over the past few years has been all about the impossible coming to pass (remember Jarjura?). I’m not ruling out a DeStefano win. But he’s going to have to work hard, and his campaign will have to be a lot better for the general election than it was for the primary.

65 comments:

matt said...

Who knows? If it weren't for the unions, maybe Malloy would have won in a blowout. Unless there are good exit polls, it may be impossible to tell.

What's the consensus on how the Governor's race would have played out without the Senate primary in the mix? I think many new voters might have pulled 1A just 'cos, while making a more deliberate choice for the Senate race. But again, it's hard to tell.

Genghis Conn said...

It's possible that 2,000 voters or more pulled the lever for DeStefano because he was on the same line as Lamont. Without the Senate race, though, I think the gubernatorial race would have had better coverage, which I have to think would have been better for Malloy than DeStefano.

Anonymous said...

Hang on a second Ghengis, just to get it out of the way ....

You're nothing but an apologist for Rell, your probably a staffer, you probably work on her campaign, she's been nothing but an empty suit, you're showing your colors, you're just a shill for the Rs, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Just thought I'd get it out of the way! ;)

Anonymous said...

DeStefano needs to get Sharpton and Jackson back in town.

With Ned and John leading the ticket, Universal healthcare and Gay marriage should get the Democrats excited and win Connecticut.

Genghis Conn said...

Glad that's out of the way... :)

Anonymous said...

There is little doubt that Glassman did so well because she is a woman. My wife came back from the polls saying she had voted for Glassman for just that reason, not knowing how else to separate the two LT candidates. Of course, that factor disappears completely in the general election with Rell at the head of the opposing ticket. Maybe DeStefano should go buy those dress-wearing ads from the Malloy camp and repurpose the voice-over for November.

disgruntled_republican said...

I don;t think many people "just pulled 1A"...proof of this is the shelling that Glassman gave Slifka...shows that people knew what they were doing and made a conscious decision in the voting machine.

bluecoat said...

The outrageous cost of healthcare delivery is a major issue that needs to be addressed and debated. Unfortunatley, so far, the debate is only about who pays the outrageous cost and how instead of how to lower the underlying costs. I just checked one of the local medical societies webs newsletter here and they still plan to wage the silly malpractice debate blaming it on frivolous lawsuits, which can't happen in med-mal by definition in CT, when they should be blaming the insurance companies who were finally put in check with legislation sugned into law by Rell in her first year.

cgg said...

DeStefano needs to better articulate his vision for CT. The nuts and bolts are there, but he needs some serious polish. Let's not kid ourselves though, this is going to be one uphill battle.

Fonzdog said...

Over & over on Tuesday we heard "I went to vote for Lamont & had no idea who anybody else was, so I just voted for the rest on the same line"-that had to be worth 5,000 votes for DeStefano at least.
Without Ned, Malloy would've won in a landslide. Look at the Hartford Courant map-his support statewide was much broader-especially in the Northwest Corner-solid for Dan.
DeStefano can't win without support from all parts of the state & support is doubtful at best out there.

bluecoat said...

HR5 HEALTH Act

note that capping non-economic damages at 250K is capping them at the average annual salary of a OB/Gyn in CT.

bluecoat said...

One of Shays bad votes was for the Republican's HR5 o-called HEALTH Act tht would have usurped states' rights with regard to individual medical malpractice claims and deny justice to many individuals. Fortunately, Chirs Dodd and a few others filibustered the bill when it came to the floor of the Senate. If you read the above link with Shays justification for this bill and have any understanding of what happens with a med-mal case in CT you know all he has done is cut and paste a position from the AMA. His "principled" stance is nothing but uniformed stubborness

bluecoat said...

one of these days I intend to ask Shays and his doctor friends what he thinks of a bill that says that any doctor who is injured in any way is only allowed to collect 250K max in pain in suffering regardless of what they have experienced due to the injury.

Anonymous said...

"Mary Glassman’s surprising victory ...is probably the best thing to happen to the Democrats on Tuesday. DeStefano’s candidacy is much enhanced by her presence. How to explain it?"

GC: Huh? Can you explain this to me and tell me what I am missing. Here's my 2 cents:

1. Nobody (ok, except family members) votes for the Lt. Gov. candidate, just like they don't vote for VP. (Want proof: Mr. Potatoe, Dan Quayle)

2. DeStefano, his campaign and the state party have to spend time and money re-doing all of his signs, stickers, labels, etc. Don't laugh, that will be a not so insignificant inconvenience.

3. Glassman's victory was not Audrey Blondin's revenge. For the love of Pete - NOBODY, NOBODY, NOBODY outside bloggers on this board knows who the hell Audrey Blondin is. Get over it, already.

4. Glassman was a much better candidate than Slifka - not even close. But neither really campaigned, there were no ads, etc. Nobody outside party regulars knew who they were.

5. The 2 reasons for Glassman's win: first, the union folks went into the booth, pulled for Senate candidate of their choice, JDS and left the booth, not aware that the LG is elected separately; and second, women voted for a woman to balance the ticket. (BTW those women will now vote for Rell)

Listen, if the choice of an LG candidate is "the best thing" that happened to the Ds on primary night, then the Ds are in trouble.

BTW, Glassman's fundraising was primarily Malloy contributors who maxed out. Malloy's business community ties are all going with Rell now, not JDS. JDS will have a hard time raising a lot of money.

Prediction: Rell 57% JDS 43%

Anonymous said...

Good analysis GC. DeStefano has a lot of work to do to win-- and his awful speech primary night was not a good start. (Reminded me of Howard Dean yelling).

Unions probably did make the difference here, and they definitely own the legislative Democrats in Hartford. Most of the Democratic State Senators are bought and paid for by Big Labor. It's too bad really-- there is so much that can be done in CT that is blocked because change threatens someone's cushy bueraucatic job.

Anonymous said...

Anyone else finding it hilarious that neither Rell, Johnson, Simmons, Gallo, Mehlman have made mention of Alan Schlesinger in any of their post-primary remarks???

Alan, where's the outrage? where's the chagrin? Where's the amber alert you should've initiated...cause your party is definitely missing from your campaign!

Anonymous said...

There are definitley people who are not fans of slifka, but his defeat was obviously a function of being matched against the only woman in a statewide race. neither candidate was well known enough to be really judged on their merits.

Genghis Conn said...

Anonymous,

re: the Dean yell--that's exactly what I thought when I was listening to it on the radio. yeeEEEAhhh!

bluecoat said...

The other dangerous thing on the med mal debate is that although Rell backed down form the rowland position of capping damages, the CT GOP has shown signs of making it a campaign issue again. They even had one of the doctors who wants the caps to speak on Fedele's behalf at the GOP nominating convention. Fedele is Rell's LG candidate BTW.

Anonymous said...

Bluecoat said: "one of these days I intend to ask Shays and his doctor friends what he thinks of a bill that says that any doctor who is injured in any way is only allowed to collect 250K max in pain in suffering regardless of what they have experienced due to the injury."

Bluecoat: I agree with your position on med mal reform. I alos thought it was more than funny when a Dr. sued Greenwich for millions when his son was in a sledding accident.

Here is my question: what if the Dr. all agreed to this limit? Would that change your mind?

A more serious question: We should all agree that the cost of lawsuits does have an imapct on the cost of health care, right? Are there more important factors? Yes. But lawsuits and the legal system do take their toll. I'll give you one example. I know a trial atty who spent the better part of 5 months picking a jury on a med mal suit. A partner and paralegal billing a client 6 to 8 hrs a day each for 5 months cost hundreds of thousands of dollars. The case was later dismissed by the judge (somewhat rare). That is a lot of money the hospital (self-insured) and the Dr.'s insuarnce co. had to pay. That incredible inefficiency in our legal system costs all of us with higher rates. Shouldn't we try to do something about that?

The problem in Washington and Hartford is that the trial lawyers have "bought" the Ds, so they won't do anything regarding the judicial system, and the insurance companies/ Dr.s have "bought" the Rs, so they won't do anything about accountability for the medical profession. We get paralysis in government as a result.

Anonymous said...

bluecoat: there are more than a few R legislators who did not favor the proposed $250K cap on med mal awards.

Anonymous said...

ANd by the way, Fedele was something like 6 months old when his family came to this country so I don't want to hear anything more about him sitting on the back of a donkey, clutching his little suitcase as he steamed into NY harbor. He had the same opportunities as everyone else.

Slifka said...

So now that summer break's over, when do John and I get to start really campaiging???

Anonymous said...

"Rell has disappointed on several fronts, to be sure, including serious property tax reform, health care and ethics."

GC: With respect to property tax reform, Rell was the only person to put forth a plan. You can scoff at the car tax proposal, but it would have permanently cut property taxes by 8% across the state. The Democrats in charge of the legislature have NEVER passed a true property tax relief package. In fact, the Democrats response to the Gov.s plan to eliminate the car tax was to keep the car tax but equalize mil rates. Under that plan, property taxes in 90-something towns would have been raised!

With respect to ethics, the Gov. vetoed her own contracting reform bill 3 times b/c of anti-business, anti-jobs, anti-non-profit language put in by the unions.

With respect to health care reform, the Democrats again failed to pass a bill and put it on her desk.

Isn't time we held the legislature accountable for these failures? After all, it is their job to pass laws! I laugh when I hear Democratic legislators talk about how bad our state is ... tell them to look in a mirror for crying out loud!

Anonymous said...

and I don't want to hear the "good-government" people talking about ethics anymore when their hero candidiate Ned Lamont is closely associated with Jesse Jackson. You guys must be cringing that he was on the stand with Ned the other night for the whole world to see.

Genghis Conn said...

Anonymous,

I didn't scoff at the car tax proposal--I actually supported it. I still think it wasn't a half-bad idea. It would have saved me a ton of money.

That said, I still think Rell could have either pushed it a little harder, or proposed something a bit different. But you're right, at least she proposed something. You're also correct about contracting reform--the Democrats knew full well she'd veto the bill, but they sent it to her anyway. Three times.

The True Gentleman said...

Demcocrats need to watch their hypocrisy on the ethics concerns.

Also, enough already with the Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton negative comments on the thread - I don't agree with many of their ideas, but if they want to support Mr. Lamont, they're entitled to (and if Mr. Lamont didn't want them with him he can send them home). They are entitled to support whomever they want, and as voters, we can decide if we don't want to support Mr. Lamont because of it.

Anonymous said...

Ok a reality check here.

1. Yes, John has a way to go to beat Jodi but I can't imagine all democrats not being united behind him - including the over 200K that voted for both John and Dan. (caveat - I volunteered for and voted for Malloy) -

2. Jodi hasn't done anything. There is no jobs policy and transportation policy in this state is a joke - though not a funny one. And as I type this I am contemplating getting in my car and driving from Norwalk to Bridgeport - should be fun. . .

I don't want to hear one scintilla of nonsense about Jodi and this idiotic campaign finance bill! Caruso is an idiot. My suggestion before you get all happy about it is read the ^@#^#%&*#* thing - I did - it makes absolutely no sense. The bill is endlessly complicated, moronically stupid, and most of the public money going out to candidates is going to pay professionals to run the treasurer's job. Remember there is criminal liability now and since the bill reads like ten chinese menus taped end to end, I can't imagine too many volunteers who are going to be willing to put their necks on the line.

3. Last but not least: tort reform and med mal caps are a republican ploy to limit business exposure and increase corporate profits. Pay attention: Texas enacted med mal caps on the premise that it would reduce med mal insurance rates. 6 months later the largest med mal insurer in the world applied to the Texax dept. of Insurance for a rate increase and indicated that med mal verdict caps would save approx. 1% and therefore they needed permission to increase rates.

Caps don't work - moreover, if you think they are a good idea: think of this - Duke medical center implants the wrong heart and lungs into a 16 year old girl - after the fact they recognize the mistake and have to implant another heart and another set of lungs - of course due to the mistake she dies. Since damages in a wrongful death suit are premised on your economic value (right or wrong) a lawyer is worth more than a garbage man. Unfortunately, the economic value of a 16 year old girl is hard to compute and is speculative so you won't get much in damages there. Thus, in this kind of case most of your damages are going to be pain and suffering and punatives. Under a cap of course the hospital only has to pay 250K after their mistake kills the girl. Sound fair?

Anonymous said...

"Waterbury," said Lamont campaign manager Tom Swan
(pictured), "are where the forces of slime meet the
forces of evil."

Anonymous said...

Waterbury may be the weirdest city in the state, just edging out Bridgeport. Democrats, Republicans... even if they're not mob-controled (strictly a theoretical possibility mind you) and even if they're not child molesters, they're still just plain weird out there. I think Murphy and Johnson are both confused as to what the hell is going on out there.

The True Gentleman said...

Anon 2:02,

But can't a person bring a suit for medical malpractice, wrongful death and loss of consortium? Do these med mal cap laws ban the ability to bring wrongful death and loss consortium claims? I was under the impression they did not (although, I might be mistaken).

Anonymous said...

Anon. 2:02 said: "There is no jobs policy and transportation policy in this state is a joke..."

You call this a reality check!

The ONLY reason why we are investing $5 billion in improving our transportation infrastructure is because of the leadership of Gov. Rell. She used her political capital to start the ball rolling with $1.3 billion. Then smart Ds like Speaker Amann said: "we have to do more than the Gov. or she will win on this important issue." So Amann proposed more. This year's bill was a compromise b/w the Gov. and legislature. It was her initiation and vision that got the ball rolling. Anyone who tells you otherwise is NOT telling the truth. By the way, this was not as easy as it should have been, given the fact that Rowland and the legislature both did nothing for about 20 years on transportation. Moreover, developing a New Haven to Springfield rail line is BOTH a transportation plan AND an economic development plan. (It also relates to housing & smart growth.) Sorry if you can't see that, pal. Maybe leave Fairfield County for a day. FYI, the Mator of New Haven, her opponent, your candidate, has said that this is important for jobs in the region. He also said it was important to invest in Tweed Airport, which Gov. Rell is also doing.

As for jobs, what do you call saving the sub-base?

Finally, what is your idea of a jobs policy - passing the pay or play legislation that the Democrats, unions and JDS wanted? That will chase thousands of jobs out of the state and the Gov. had to spend a lot of time fending off that piece of horrible legislation.

Nice try. JDS is toast!

Speaking of ethics ... how is his record???? Hmmmmm.

Anonymous said...

Anon. 2:02 Why do we care about what is fair? In your scenario, the 16 year old is dead - that is a f***ing tragedy and the hospital and DR. must be held accountable. Take away the DR.'s license. But if she is not married, has no kids or dependents (even no siblings). please tell me how we as a society benefit from giving her parents and a couple of lawyers millions of dollars. If you want to punish the hospital and DR. financially, then fine, but make the money go to better training of DR.'s, or hiring more nurses or providing better care. That way, all of society benefits for a horrible wrong.

Anonymous said...

Can someone please explain to me what property tax reform looks like? The only proposals from Democrats I have heard just shift the tax burden from the towns to the state.

How is that reform?

Anonymous said...

Please tell me how Jodi Rell was LG for nine and 1/2 years and didn't know her partner in government was a crook?

And then tell me why her son has been living off the state dole for a comparable amount of time?

BRubenstein said...

Bluecoat called me a REPUBLICAN troll LMAOOOO since i support..

1 immediate withdrawal from Iraq
2 gay marriage
3 increased taxes from the rich
4 single payer universal health insurance.
5 public ownership of utilities and greater regulation of them.

I insist Bluecaot that we mutually lobby our Republican Party for those issues.

BRubenstein said...

Anon 2:27...creeps and cheats from both parties now put in their relatives and family members in political jobs...members of the elected elite from both parties do it..and its wrong and a corrupting influence.

The True Gentleman said...

Is that all you have to say Anon 2:37? Most people are engaged in a debate over what has or hasn't been done and that is what you come up with?

Anonymous said...

Anon 237- Rell's son has done things that have gone under the radar Many people forget the stolen watercraft he was on But got off Because someone at DEP and The State Police knew Jodi and they gave him a pass.

Everyone only sees the Jodi that is holding her grandson on the news in front of the cameras.

The bad stuff gets buried forever.

DeStefano would be no better He cant keep his word when picking his LG runningmate he has to listen to The Fred Flintstone lookalike(kevin Sullivan)to find Scotty too Hotty Slifka and look where that got him.

Basically this election is about the lesser of two evils.

Right now my options are Jodi or dont vote at all not a lot of gray area.

Anonymous said...

BR-you forgot
6) changing our form of government from "the republic" to "the people's republic"
7) making granola a staple of state dinners
8) ensuring that it's not just legal to hug a tree--you can marry one too.

bluecoat said...

BR: your just a Republican troll; I don't beleive anything you post that suggests you are a leftist. TG: CT has a law on the books for twenty years now that says a plaintiff's atty must file a "certificate of merit" with a judge in order to bring a med mal suit and only a med mal suit. What that means in practice is that the plaintiff's atty has had an independent review of a case by a medical doctor - and in the legislation ppassed two years gao the ante was upped to require the plaintiff to disclose the name of the independent expert at the time of filing. And in CT if you are hurt by med mal and recover you can not sue no matter what it cost you ion economic damages or non-economic damages.I was out to lunch (go ahead someone) so here's the anon's earlier post witht my comments interspersed and a reminder that I am not a lawyer:
Bluecoat: I agree with your position on med mal reform. I alos thought it was more than funny when a Dr. sued Greenwich for millions when his son was in a sledding accident. it wasn't the doctor's son, it was the doctor himself and the doctor had been one of the voices for caps

Here is my question: what if the Dr. all agreed to this limit? Would that change your mind? no but I am just trying to make a point to the dumb doctors that they can't have it both ways.

A more serious question: We should all agree that the cost of lawsuits does have an imapct on the cost of health care, right? Are there more important factors? Yes. But lawsuits and the legal system do take their toll. I'll give you one example. I know a trial atty who spent the better part of 5 months picking a jury on a med mal suit. A partner and paralegal billing a client 6 to 8 hrs a day each for 5 months cost hundreds of thousands of dollars. The case was later dismissed by the judge (somewhat rare). That is a lot of money the hospital (self-insured) and the Dr.'s insuarnce co. had to pay. That incredible inefficiency in our legal system costs all of us with higher rates. Shouldn't we try to do something about that? that sounds to me like a rich guy who had an axe to grind paying his atty. becasue I don't know many attys who work on contingency would work on a dead end case.

The problem in Washington and Hartford is that the trial lawyers have "bought" the Ds, so they won't do anything regarding the judicial system, and the insurance companies/ Dr.s have "bought" the Rs, so they won't do anything about accountability for the medical profession. We get paralysis in government as a result. that's a gross generaliztion and I don't want the federal govt. screwing with CT's tort system when it comes to individuals. Dodd brokered a deal two years ago on class action suits that stopped the practice of jury shopping from state to state.

I hope I got back to everybody and I just want to say again as well to expose BR for what he is: a rught winger in leftist clothing; don't be fooled. <:-))

Genghis Conn said...

I always knew that BR only supported Ned Lamont so that, indirectly, Alan Schlesinger could be elected. They are, after all, both gambling men.

bluecoat said...

At lunch I was in earshot of a couple of extermely loud guys in fancy dress on their fourth Martini's until I moved. They actually were wondering if Rove didn't orchestrate the whole CT Senate race. Conspiracy theorists are all around us.

Anonymous said...

It's all a Rove plot--all of it!!!

Here what Joe said today--right out of central casting!!!

Anonymous said...

Rove made Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson stand behind Ned!!!

The man is an all powerful deity!!!

bluecoat said...

I have posted this before and it's not the only source of my position by any means but it goes to the issue An excerpt from The Medical Malpractice Myth Tom Baker a insurance industry prof at UCONN.

BRubenstein said...

GC..LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

bluecoat said...

TG alittle more on:But can't a person bring a suit for medical malpractice, wrongful death and loss of consortium? Do these med mal cap laws ban the ability to bring wrongful death and loss consortium claims? I was under the impression they did not (although, I might be mistaken). basically they deter certain suits in which non-economic damages are the primary damages - and that is a number of them if you look at them individually. There are problems in madison County Illionois but there simply aren't problems in Ct that I have evr heard of. I am not sure anon's example is a case filed in CT either but maybe he can clarify.

bluecoat said...

I say clarify because it is rare for a judge to dismiss a case after it has gone as far as jury selection!!!. maybe there was a bad judge which does happen in CT.

BRubenstein said...

Bluecoat...so my election as the Finance Chair for the Democratic Party for most of the 90's was a plot by ( rowland and rove) for republican advancement? ..as well as the roles i had in successful statewide races?

You better stop smoking such bad stuff my friend.Ive never voted for a r..or gave them money either...nor do i post anonamously like you pal...LMAOOOOO what a trip.

bluecoat said...

another anon saidI don't want to hear one scintilla of nonsense about Jodi and this idiotic campaign finance bill! Caruso is an idiot. but it wasn't Caruso's bill to be fair; I do criticize him for being the patsie who took it to the floor.

bluecoat said...

BR: I forgot that Rowland and Bush were friends; so of course you are in tight with Rove.<:-))

Anonymous said...

John Destefano has absolutely no chance of victory over Rell. First of all, he is nothing more than a machine politician trying to disguise himself as a Progressive (much the way dean did as well) because he thinks it is in style. Check his contributions -- all from big state contractors and people that reek Rowland. The bottom line is that true progressives see DeStefano for what he is: a phony. Rell, at the very least, is an honest and real person, although unfortunately a Republican. DeStefano says he is for Universal Health Care, but says absolutely nothing anywhere on his website about what kind of a program he might want to propose. Takling Universal Health Care is a MAJOR undertaking with should not and essentially cannot be politicized. Some idiot mayor from New Haven with no experience at dealing with a legislature, never mind leading a state, standing up and declaring he is for universal health care is as stupid as if george bush declared war on west virginia.

matt said...

Anon 227: Med mal lawsuits cannot shut a negligent facility down, in fact even the most gross malpractice violations don't require stripping the doctor in question of his/her license.

The med mal damages become the only real tool to make an incentive / disincentive for hospitals or private practitioners to carefully regulate their practices.

The problem is not the victims of malpractice being overcompensated, the problem is that America has the highest actual rates of malpractice in the world. Very very little of it is actually litigated. Blaming the victim is a very shabby thing to do, especially when these awards are determined by juries operating in the best traditions of the American justice system.

It's amazing to me that in order to help a hospital corporation make a few more bucks, people have been convinced that we must let actual malpractice go unpunished and overturn the jury-based justice system.

bluecoat said...

I don't agree with it but the suggestion that JDS has nothing on his
href="http://www.destefanoforct.com/content.jsp?content_KEY=1473">webpage
is pretty lame. I can't find the word health on Rell's but maybe I didn't look hard enough.

Anonymous said...

Several interesting threads here tonight. A couple comments:

1. To those ethically superior but anon JDS supporters (237), JDS is a filthy crook. If he starts to get any traction, his skeletons will surface. I'd advise against the "holier than them" strategy.

2. To those of you nutjobs that think universal healthcare and gay marriage can win an election, congratulations on winning the only election those two issues can win: A Democrat Party Primary. Whether JDS is a phony liberal or a real one (I agree with the phony analysis--after all he was a college republican), that kind of nutjob liberalism can't win a general election.

3. And the final reason why Rell will win: the real aftermath of the Rowland debacle is the numbness of the general electorate to this nasty, personal, blog filled haze that substitutes for real change. Therefore, grandma wins...people don't want anything, they just want a Gov that won't embarass them. Related reason: the US Senate race is too darn exciting for anyone to care about a race between grandma and a whiny, limp-wristed union stooge.

Anonymous said...

It looks like Rell has hired a blogging staff, huh? It didn't take long for the republicans to start throwing out names like "crook" and "idiot". Notice that there are no facts behind any of these statements. Honestly, it makes me feel like DeStefano might have a better shot than people are getting him credit for. If the Republicans think he has no shot, why would they be on here sounding off?

CTOctaneBlue said...

Audrey Blondin strikes back! DeStefano is getting what he deserves in an LG candidate that was picked by his rival and has made numerous statements trashing him over the past three months. I know it may not be headline news, but Democrats, especially in the 5th CD, remember what DeStefano did to Audrey at the convention. Blondin has a lot of support in the 5th CD, and played a larger than realized role in Malloy winning the district. If Audrey had been DeStefano's LG candidate, I think she would have won the election over Mary. In any event, if Rell goes on to win (which I think is almost a given at this point- her approval is 74%!!), the gubernatorial candidates in 2010 should really consider Audrey as a great LG choice.

Anonymous said...

I don't think Universal Health Care will be an issue that decides any election in Connecticut. Such a high percentage of our population has health care, access to quality care is within reach of most of those that vote and I think most people realize it will cost a bundled. The D's best hope is for a major screw-up from one of Jodi's Commissioners. Her set of commissioners and staffers are the worse in memory. Rowland had a couple of real nasty, greedy crooks but Rell only has about two quality commissioners and one is a holdover.

CTRevolution said...

370,000. That's the number of people who don't have health care in this state. That's the number of people who when they are sick, do not have access to medicine. And guess what those people do when they get sick, they don't go to the doctors and they get more and more sick. Then they end up in the emergency room which is guess what the most expensive place to be treated and their illness could of been prevented much earlier had they health care insurance.

Don't think health care's an issue, ask seniors how much they pay for medicine. How they have to skip out on groceries to scrap together money to pay for extemely expensive medicine. Ask the 70,000 children in the state who don't don't have health care if it's an issue.

What kind of person would let this happen while at the same time cutting estate taxes on the super rich? JODI RELL. Now at this point you may be asking yourself, isn't that the same person who claimed ignorance while Rowland was off committing his crimes. Yes, and her ignorance continues, now with the issues that effect the working people of CT.

It is the moral imperative to give these people health care. Every man, woman and child should have access to medicine. This will be the rallying call when DeStefano beats Rell this Fall.

bluecoat said...

Based on some comments that I have heard from unaffiliated voters who had been fed stuff by CT Republicans, the CT GOP is already trying to thread a floavor that JDS and New Haven are corrupt. Where's there evidence? The stuff on Alan Gold turned out to be about a tenth of what Gallo and Rell hyped it to be. And Jodi is no angel - ala Lisa Moody who lied to a committee of the state legislature but will go free.

The True Gentleman said...

Bluecoat, if there are members of the CTGOP saying that JDS and New Haven are corrupt I agree that they should come forward with evidence (rather than just saying it). I lived in New Haven for many years while JDS has been Mayor, I don't especially care for him personally and I definitely don't like his policies and style of governing -- but I haven't seen any evidence that he is corrupt!!

bluecoat said...

TG: they are doing it because the U's I have talked with are credible but I can't get specific on this blog. Both parties have their dirty wackos. They even spread rumors locally about me when they can't refute my position with facts or analysis but I could care less.

Anonymous said...

JDS was not a college Republican

bluecoat said...

JDS was a closet Republican not a college Republican; i have it on good information from the malloy campaign but they decide to hold back in the interest of party unity.