Thursday, July 27, 2006

Is Lieberman Behind on Collecting Petitions?

Yesterday, Sen. Lieberman's campaign manager made this interesting assertion:
“As far as I know there’s no one in any of the offices doing that [petition gathering],” Steinfels said.

Today Ken Krayeske of the Green Party was at the Secretary of the State's office, and reported that he found only 65 certified signatures, out of 70 total, for the Connecticut for Lieberman party. This is compared to 414 for the Concerned Citizens' statewide ticket, 67 for the Independent Party statewide ticket, and 3296 certified out of 4550 submitted for the Green Party.

Which means that either the CT for Lieberman folks are sitting on a big stack of petitions, or they simply aren't collecting all that many of them. The deadline for filing petitions is August 9th--Lieberman needs about 7,500 to get on the ballot. Unless he's planning a big push over the next two weeks... he may not make it.

If Lieberman loses the primary and doesn't turn in enough signatures, he's finished. Literally.

Update: Concorde at My Left Nutmeg has an account of Lieberman's petition-gathering, so it looks like it is happening. How much has been gathered is uncertain.

24 comments:

Anonymous said...

Say hello to Sen. Joe Lieberman (R, CT)

TrueBlueCT said...

What a jerk Joe Lieberman is! That which he is doing is so bad for his supporters.

For example, I heard Kiley Gosselin was asked to step down from her position as treasurer of the CT Young Democrats because of her inclusion in the "Lieberman 25".

Honestly, a 3-way Senate race is unforgivable. I wouldn't want to be a Liebercrat, particularly if Joe's selfishness results in a Republican winning the seat.

Do you hear me Jim Amman? How 'bout you Mayor Jarjura? Are you guys really going to "Stick with Joe" if he loses the Primary?

Anonymous said...

Didn't Jarjura leave the donkeys, run as an independent and win himself? Why would he not support Joe?

Anonymous said...

I called the Lieberman office at the phone number listed on joe2006.com and asked the staffer answering the phone where I could sign the petition. She replied that they have been instructed to take down the callers home address and they will send someone out to them. This didn't work for me, so I asked if they would have volunteers in the field with petitions and she didn't know. I then asked if I could stop by the office to sign it and she said that she's been instructed to not give out the office address.

The address on the website is a PO Box at the State House Square post office in Hartford. This is no way to accumulate signatures! I could walk to DeStefano HQ on Main Street in HTFD and they would invite me in no problem...I'd like to sign it, but if I can't, then that's one less toward the goal. If I were running JOE2006, I would have volunteers at State House Square, the NH Green, wtby, bpt, even Pomfret for chrissake! These guys really have no idea what they're doing!

Anonymous said...

Do people really think the Lieberman Campaign won't be able to collect 7,500 signatures? They are definitley sitting on them.

TrueBlueCT said...

Anon 1:07--

The question is whether they can collect the signatures without the press reporting on it. In this case, one picture is worth several thousand votes...

BRubenstein said...

I believe they are collecting signatures...and have the staff and workers to effectively carry it out...they would be wise to hold the petitions until they know they need them ( 8/9/06) and probably were told to do so.

Remember the petitions become a "prime voter base" and every person on the list can be called by them and us...

Anonymous said...

I then asked if I could stop by the office to sign it and she said that she's been instructed to not give out the office address.

Does Lieberman have the most paranoid and dysfunctional campaign in the country, or what? They are bordering on psychotic. No one will have trouble reaching the Lamont campaign.

Anonymous said...

Diane Urban, anti war republican is collecting signatures also and some of the same circulators are getting signatures for her and Joe.

Her support would come from moderate and liberal republicans ( hurting AS) and some anti war folks ( hurting Lamont)

Her boy friend is Representatve Fontana who is the Vice Chair of the Democratic Party and probably along with other Lieberman allies, " guided her" into doing this.

Genghis Conn said...

I do wonder why so many people think Urban is incapable of making up her own mind.

TrueBlueCT said...

Quit smearing Diane Urban. My understanding is that she represents a Weicker back-up plan. He did vow to have an anti-war person on the ballot in November. Didn't he?

Anonymous said...

Trueblue....what part of the Weicker backup plan does she represent when some of her circulators were seen also getting signatures for Joementum?

Anonymous said...

The jackpot of signatures is located in...Willington.

TrueBlueCT said...

2:12PM--

You keep making these anonymous assertions that Diane Urban is in bed with Joe Lieberman.

Unfortunately for you, I met Diane in New London last week. What she told me personally (in response to some rather direct questions), --well, it contradicts what you are saying 100%.

So forced with whether to take State Rep. Urban at her word, or listen to your shadowy smears, I'm going to give Ms. Urban the benefit of the doubt.

What seems obvious is that Joe wouldn't want Ms. Urban on the ticket, were he to win the Primary. From what I hear Ms. Urban is far to the left, and might actually agree to caucus with the Senate Dems. If that is true, we could have an interesting fall one way or the other.

Anonymous said...

After reading this board discuss Diana Urban's possible motives, I am pretty certain that the speculation reveals an underlying mysogyny in politics.

Imagine, just for a second, that other concerns (global warming, nuclear proliferation, the breakdown of the constitution, results based accounting) motivate her.

Imagine, also, for a second, that players outside of the "accepted" political spectrum could be involved here.

Suppose that the Working Families Party recruited her to run as an anti-war Republican, specifically to help Chris Murphy in the Fifth Congressional District? He is on the WFP ballot line in the 5th, and she might draw voters down there - 1% could be the margin of difference with Murphy and Johnson?

Suppose that fell through and she is still interested in running for the seat in case Lamont loses? Because if Lamont loses, the anti-war crowd has no candidate except her - sorry Ralph Ferrucci, you aren't as credible as three-term incumbent Republican state rep.

So for you nincompoops on the board here, stop being so shortsighted and sexist in your political analysis. It's pathetic to read, and doesn't account for all the forces at work in the Connecticut political spectrum.

Anonymous said...

Urban still needs the 7500 signatures. I just can't see her getting those.

Genghis Conn said...

She's already got about 3,500 or so, I believe...

Anonymous said...

Rep. Urban is an intelligent, hard working legislator. Her voting record is far more consistent with the CT Democrats than the Republicans. She even splits with her party on procedural votes. But so what? Let's stop the disgusting personal stuff. I would like to know what inspired her to run for the U.S. Senate? I know that she was toying with the idea of running for an open State Senate seat and backed out because she did not think that she could beat Rep. Lenny Winkler in a primary. But isn't this a tougher race? Perhaps she is hedging her bets (sorry about the betting metaphor Mr. Gold) that Lieberman wins the primary and then she would be the only anti-war candidate in the race. She would probably get all of the Lamont votes and be in good position. Who knows?

BRubenstein said...

And if Lamont wins on 8/8/06..she will draw votes from him and help Joe Lieberman.

Anonymous said...

I learned today that Lieberman allegedly hired a firm called Spoon Works out of Boston to collect signatures for his campaign.

MikeCT said...

They don't need 7,500 signatures. They need 15,000. The general rule of thumb is that you gather twice the number of certified signatures required by law, since so many will be ruled invalid for one reason or another. That's a tall hurdle without a major organized effort with lots of volunteers. And since Joe's campaign won't even tell anyone where their office is, can't rely on the party infrastructure to help him, and wants any signature gathering to fall under the radar, I am not at all sure he's capable or even completely interested in gathering them. He may be going through the motions as a scare tactic.

Anonymous said...

If Lamont wins maybe she doesn;t turn in her petitions the next day

Anonymous said...

Watch that they gather them all on primary day by pulling folks aside on the way into the polls . By Mike CT's rule of thumb they'll only need about a 8% yield from that

Anonymous said...

Lieberman will get enough signatures to be a Candidates you DFA people and Liberals should be more worried if Ned will win the primary Remember Ned Loses the primary is no another day for him unless he does the petition game now prior to August 8th.

oh wait No Ned is too cocky and arrogant he doesnt have a plan B Because I guess he really doesnt want to be a US Senator that badly

Or He is an all or nothing type of guy.