Monday, July 03, 2006

Lieberman Hedging His Bets

Senator to Start Collecting Signatures

Sen. Joe Lieberman will start gathering signatures for a run as an "independent Democrat" should he lose to Ned Lamont in August, the Hartford Courant is reporting:
Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman is to announce today he will petition for a place on the November ballot as an "independent Democrat," giving him a chance to stay alive politically should he lose an Aug. 8 primary for the Democratic nomination.

Lieberman began making courtesy calls to leading Democrats late this morning. (Pazniokas)

Lieberman needs to collect 7,500 signatures by August 9th.

Doing this three days before the debate is like handing Ned Lamont a bat with a nail through it and saying, "Here. Club me with this."

It also suggests that Lieberman is really not all that interested in what Democratic primary voters have to say. What, exactly, is an "independent Democrat" anyway? A Democrat who isn't a Democrat?

No matter how he tries to spin it, this is not where Joe Lieberman wanted to be right now.

Source

Pazniokas, Mark. "Lieberman To Start Petition Drive." Hartford Courant 3 July, 2006.

63 comments:

BRubenstein said...

The Lamont campaign should seek support from those elected officials and party members who are disgusted by Joe's highest priority..which is himself and the retention of his job...

Joe's announcement to petition is a slap in the face to every good Democrat who wishes to support a DEMOCRAT, not a DINO.

I bet alot of Joe's support will " melt away" now and i wouldnt be surprised to see him send a letter to the SOTS taking him off the ballot before the primary.

TrueBlueCT said...

Chicken-sh*t Joe!

Can't believe he has done it again. So laughably tragic. I'd almost feel sorry for him, if it weren't for this most stupid war and the ruin of 20,000 American families.

Chris MC said...

Pazniokas' Courant piece on the announcement.

cgg said...

Wow, he just handed Lamont the primary. I expect the Lieberman campaign will continue their self-destructive campaign. At this point Joe may not be in to win, but to cause as much damage as possible.

cgg said...

Oh, but nice move on holding the conference today. Chuck Schumer would be proud. The timing is right out of his playbook.

BRubenstein said...

Chris Mc..Pat Rice..and others...can Lamont count on your support now if he wins the primary or if Boltin Joe bolts?

Chris MC said...

Susan Haigh's AP piece on the announcement.

MikeCT said...

I'd encourage everyone to contact your local Democrat and ask them to reject Lieberman's independent bid and pledge to support the winner of the Democratic primary. Especially Dodd. And your town chairs while you're at it.

Chris MC said...

Bruce -
I refer you to my earlier comments on the subject. Pay attention and stop the incessant spinning.

TrueBlueCT said...

Sean Smith has got to be fired. Expect the announcement of a new campaign manager after tomorrow's holiday.

And I wonder what Kenny Curran will do. I don't think he'll keep working for Joe much longer. (Dagliere is wed to Lieberman, and has no choice...)

TrueBlueCT said...

MikeCT--

Someone ought to contact Chris Murphy.

He might as well act, b/c if Joe goes through with this plan, his campaign is over. Nancy and Joe will be parading through Waterbury and Danbury, arm-in-arm.

The smart move for Chris would to become the spokesman for all the Connecticut Dems that Joe will hurt via his selfishness.

ProgCT said...

Ned should send him a thank you card for handing him the primary.

ctkeith said...

CUT AND RUN LIEBERMAN,

At every moment in Liebermans life where he could stand up and fight or CUT AND RUN Lieberman chose CUT AND RUN

From 13 Deferments from serving in Vietnam to now saying he's running as a "PETITIONING DEMOCRAT" (LMAO),Lieberman has proven he's got a yellow streak right down his back.
Man of integrity my ass,COWARD JOE is much more fitting,

Genghis Conn said...

Long Post Ahead...

Here's the press release I just got from the Lieberman campaign:

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***PRESS RELEASE***

STRESSING HIS DEMOCRATIC LOYALTIES, JOE LIEBERMAN TAKES STEPS FOR BALLOT PLACEMENT IN GENERAL ELECTION
Campaign Remains Focused on Winning Democratic Primary

Hartford, CT – Sen. Joe Lieberman announced today that he has decided to take steps in order to ensure ballot placement in the General Election. The details of the effort, which consists of collecting 7,500 signatures, will be made public in the coming days. In his remarks, Lieberman assured Democratic voters that his campaign is squarely focused on winning the Democratic Primary on August 8.

During the short speech, on the steps of the State Capitol, Lieberman quoted the reasons for his decision:

“I have been a proud, loyal and progressive Democrat since John F. Kennedy inspired my generation of Americans into public service. And I will stay a Democrat, whether I am the Democratic Party’s nominee or a petitioning Democratic candidate on the November ballot.

And, If I am privileged enough to be re-elected in November, I will remain a member of the Democratic Caucus, hopefully a Senate Democratic Majority Caucus.

After 18 years of working for, fighting for, and delivering for all the people of Connecticut, I want the opportunity to make my case to all the voters in November --- they are the voters who have been good enough to elect me in the Senate in the November elections of 1988, 1994 and 2000.

Based on my experience, principles and accomplishments, I know that I can do more for the people of Connecticut than my opponents.”

Now, having made this decision, my supporters and I are going to focus with single-minded intensity on our goal of winning the Democratic Primary, and we look forward to August 9th. When all we have to do is celebrate our victory in the Primary the day before.”

***See below for full text of Sen. Lieberman’s remarks.

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TEXT OF SEN. LIEBERMAN’S REMARKS

I’ve had the honor of representing the people of Connecticut for a long time – as a Democratic member of the State Senate for 10 years, as a Democratic Majority Leader of the State Senate for six of those years, as Democratic Attorney General for six years, as your Democratic United States Senator for 18 years. And, I’ve always leveled with you.

That’s why I want to tell you today that I have made the decision to allow signatures to be collected that will enable me to appear on the November Ballot as an individual Democratic candidate for re-election to the Senate if I don’t win the Democratic Party’s nomination in the Primary on August 8th.

I want to be clear about why I have made this decision and what it means.

First, I have been a proud, loyal and progressive Democrat since John F. Kennedy inspired my generation of Americans into public service. And I will stay a Democrat, whether I am the Democratic Party’s nominee or a petitioning Democratic candidate on the November ballot.

And, If I am privileged enough to be re-elected in November, I will remain a member of the Democratic Caucus, hopefully a Senate Democratic Majority Caucus.

Now, my reasons for making this decision:

While I believe that I will win the August 8th Primary, I know that there are no guarantees in elections. I am very confident that if every Democrat, or even a majority of them, vote on August 8th I will be nominated by a very comfortable margin.

But, no one knows how many Democrats will come out to vote on August 8th, and few think it will be more than 25 or 30 percent. And what if my opponent, who says he is worth somewhere between $90 and $300 million decides to write bigger and bigger checks in the last weeks of the campaign?

After 18 years of working for, fighting for, and delivering for all the people of Connecticut, I want the opportunity to make my case to all the voters in November --- they are the voters who have been good enough to elect me in the Senate in the November elections of 1988, 1994 and 2000.

My opponent in the Democratic Primary is asking Democrats to vote against me because of my position on one issue—Iraq. I am asking Democrats in the Primary in August and the General Election in November to consider my total record of service to our state and country over 18 years. Every election is about the future, about which of the candidates can do more for the voters, their families, and our state and country in the years ahead and that choice involves a lot more than one issue. I am asking voters in the Primary and the General Election to ask themselves which one of us can do more to save their jobs and create new ones, to protect their security, their freedom, and their environment, to bring energy costs and health care costs under control.

The six years ahead will be tough ones for a lot of people in Connecticut and they will need help from their Senator.

Based on my experience, principles and accomplishments, I know that I can do more for the people of Connecticut than my opponents.

But that ultimately won’t be up to me or the other candidates. It will be decided by the voters of Connecticut --- first the Democratic voters in the Primary on August 8th, and then by all the voters in the General Election on November 7th.

Now, having made this decision, my supporters and I are going to focus with single-minded intensity on our goal of winning the Democratic Primary, and we look forward to August 9th. When all we have to do is celebrate our victory in the Primary the day before.

Thank you.


FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS

Q. Is Joe Lieberman getting out of the Democratic Primary?

A. No. Joe Lieberman is completely committed to winning the Democratic Primary. For the next five weeks, all of his and the campaign’s time and efforts will be focused on winning the August 8th Democratic Primary.

Q. Is Joe Lieberman leaving the Democratic Party?

A. No. He has been a registered Democrat his whole life and he will always be a registered Democrat. If he petitions his way onto the ballot in November, he would continue to be a registered Democrat. If he wins in November, he would organize with the Democrats and vote –as he always has- with the Democrats in Washington. He would be the same public servant he always has been—with a strong progressive voting record

Q. Won’t he be running as an Independent?

A. No, he will not be on the ballot as an Independent.

Q. How will he appear on the ballot?

A. He has two options, to petition his way on as an individual, or as a petitioning party. That decision will be made in the coming days.

Q. Does this move signal to Sen. Lieberman's supporters that he thinks he is going to lose the primary?

A. No. The most recent polling has shown that Sen. Lieberman holds a commanding lead over his opponent. These steps are only being taken as a fallback

Q. Has the campaign begun collecting signatures?

A. No.

Q. When will the campaign begin collecting signatures?

A. This decision was made over the last few days. There is not yet a set date or fixed plan for collecting signatures.

Q. Who will be collecting the signatures?

A. This decision was made over the last few days. There is no plan yet for collecting signatures.

MikeCT said...

TrueBlue,
Chris Murphy's campaign has made a clear and unambiguous statement that he will support the winner of the primary. Whether he or others will reverse their previous endorsements - that will be a tougher road. But yes, an independent Lieberman campaign would hurt all other Dems.

disgruntled_republican said...

For all of you who have been doubters and non-beleivers...

Let me introduce you to Alan Schlesinger, Connecticut's new junior Senator!

Thanks Joe!

MikeCT said...

Q. How will he appear on the ballot?
A. He has two options, to petition his way on as an individual, or as a petitioning party. That decision will be made in the coming days.


He hasn't decided? The Joe Party?

Q. Does this move signal to Sen. Lieberman's supporters that he thinks he is going to lose the primary?
A. No. The most recent polling has shown that Sen. Lieberman holds a commanding lead over his opponent. These steps are only being taken as a fallback


Yeah, right. Lieberman is a weak man who will campaign by appealing to Republicans.

BRubenstein said...

Chris...your non-answer to support the winner of the democratic primay is an answer.

BRubenstein said...

Joe has just put the candidacies of Farrell,Murphy and Courtney in jeopardy...lets see if they have the guts to dosown him...OLSON and DINardo should also...

BRubenstein said...

Disgruntled...i wasnt a doubter for one moment...you're party is much more homogenous then mine and this petition business wouldnt happen in your party...ive already posted the 3way numbers in a prior post..and the race will be close with your candidate having a good shot at it.

CTObserver said...

Just one for the Irony Department ... Making the direct petition route easier was supposedly designed to allow the more progressive members of the party bypass the Establishment and get directly on the ballot. Now it is being used by the Establishment candidate to beat back a progressive challenge!

MikeCT said...

Breaking news! The reporters got it wrong. Lieberman is running for President! (The original, for as long as the copy editors don't notice it.)

Authentic Connecticut Republican said...

BRubenstein said... "
...you're party is much more homogenous then mine
"

You missed out on a promising career in comedy.

Authentic Connecticut Republican said...

BRubenstein said... "
...you're party is much more homogenous then mine
"

You missed out on a promising career in comedy.

TrueBlueCT said...

MikeCT--
Encourage Murphy to make a strong statement, now. When the dust settles, it will be clear to everyone that Joe can't win the primary. That means he will be running as an Independent, which means Murphy is f*cked.

His race is over, he might as well act. If he stands up as a Dem stalwart, he will get national coverage, and he will position himself above the corrupt souls of Lieberman and Johnson.

Joe strategy is obvious. He's going to do a smear job on Lamont in Connecticut's cities, hoping that if they vote for Joe in August, they will stay with him for November. Then a month from now he's going to play it squeaky clean, and start running hard from the Right.

Every Connecticut Dem who gives two shits about our races should walk away from Joe, right now.

Authentic Connecticut Republican said...

TrueBlueCT said...

The smart move for Chris would to become the spokesman for all the Connecticut Dems that Joe will hurt via his selfishness.


Yup!

That would be perfect!

That way every dem who ever helped Murphy the anti-christ would have been stabbed in the back by him.

Right now Joe is alone in that regard.

Clearly you have failed to talk to any dems in Southington, Cheshire or Wolcott about the current holder of the 16th senate seat.

Chris MC said...

Where is Dodd coming down on this?

Chris MC said...
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Oops.

Chris MC said...

http://connecticutblog.blogspot.com/

for some reason blogger isn't displaying the link properly - here is the url.

BRubenstein said...

Joementum has stuck a dagger in the congressional campaigns by doing what he is doing...He wont be able to use the money he has raised so far in a 3way race...The "lemmings" ( dodd,congressional official,constitutional officers and party officials and Olson and DiNardo ) must be nervous as they ran to him before giving Lamont a chance to show his "goods"..what will they do next? Lets hope they at least have the backbone to reject Joementum,though i doubt it.

Chris MC said...

CTBlogger breaks the news!

Congratulations on scooping everybody!

MikeCT said...

All the more reason to call Dodd at (202) 224-2823.

I called Larson's office, who said he has not taken a position - 202-225-2265.

TrueBlueCT said...

ChrisMc--
The play isn't Dodd. He'll remain above the fray. The play are all the down-ticket Dems whose campaigns will get crushed by this selfish Joe move.

Message, money, volunteers, --all three will be negatively impacted.

Who do you think Joe will march with in New London. Simmons, or Courtney? Heck, he can't even march in Bridgeport with Fabrizi!

Right now I am so glad I didn't ante up for Farrell. If you want to win Congressional seats, better look out of state. Unless the Big Three step up and do something aggressive. Any bets as to whether Murphy, Farrell or Courtney will respond strongly to today's events? My prediction is that they "bend-over" in typical Democratic fashion.

BRubenstein said...

FLASH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dodd just announced that he is not supporting the winner of the primary...he will "wait and see"...as reported by connecticut blogger

Thanks for tearing the party apart Chris !!!!!!!!!

Chris MC said...

I think TB that they are all focused on winning their own races, focused on their respective opponents' record.

Like it or not, this changes nothing before August 8 insofar as endorsements go.

Your points are well taken regarding the General, but there is not much that the Congressional candidates can do about it. Joe is making his own choices, obviously.

Chris MC said...

Bruce, pay attention will you? That was posted already. Don't you have something useful to do today? Sheesh.

TrueBlueCT said...

Rosa, Dodd and Larson should hold a press conference on Thursday and simply tell Joe that if he doesn't want to commit to the will of the Democratic Party, he should get out now and not later.

There is too much at stake in November for them to let him get away with this maneuver.

And Harry Reid should pipe in too. Joe is risking a Dem Senate seat in a 3-way race, and that should not be tolerated. Let Joe run with the Republicans, and their stupid war.

TrueBlueCT said...

ChrisMc--

Let me get this straight. You are recommending that Chris Murphy should simply bend over, and allow Lieberman to stick it up his a**?

Brilliant. We are talking about the same Senator who marched with Nancy Johnson in the Waterbury parade. Aren't we?

Chris MC said...

You know that won't happen before the primary at least, right?

Gotta go TB. Talk to you later.

Chris MC said...

No I'm not advocating anything.

I'm saying what I think they'll be doing is all. Commenting on the political weather.

I really have to leave now. Back late tonight if I can.

disgruntled_republican said...

TrueBlueCt-

I think you are right on with the "bend over" position. Heck, Courtney hasnt even stated his position on Iraq (other than some bable on his website where he tossed Simmons' name in with Bush where he felt it was appropriate) since he said he agreed with Simmons last time he ran...

As for who Joe will march with...I assure you we Republicans don't want him marching with us!

He can sweep the horse poo at the end for all I care.

BRubenstein said...

Trueblue..For the next several weeks as Joe's staff collects petition signatures he will be marching with anyone ( including Johnson,Simmons and Shays) to save his own ass...there will be minimum focus from Joe on our party...and with DODD still backing Joe( and others will too,pubically and secretly) ..our party will be split bigtime and i see alot of support melting away from the congressional dem candidates..especially since they walked the plank for him and look ridiculous now dont they?

TrueBlueCT said...

ChrisMc--
The primary is over. Ned won it today.

Joe is only staying in this race to smear Ned. He needs to remain a "Democrat" in order to do so effectively.

But with regards to every other Dem, they have to realize that Joe just dropped out, and that he will soon be running hard to the Right.

My advice is that they get out in front of it all. Time for everyone to unite against Joe and the Republicans' war.

TrueBlueCT said...

Bruce--
They don't look weak and stupid if they unite to ask Joe to "Commit or Quit". Their support was based upon Joe honoring the will of the Party. Now that Lieberman has thumbed his nose at CT Dems, they owe him nothing.

Again, if we shove Loser Joe over to their side, we can run a "throw the bums out" campaign together. Let the Republicans have their war-hawk. And their Alito enabler. And their torture apologist. And their Energy Bill.

Weicker Liker said...

Well, I would imagine the State Republicans are getting ready to unveil their new Senate Candidate.

You don't see Nancy Johnson coming out STRONG for Alan Scheslinger?

I'll say it again. The Republicans will have another person to run in the next few weeks

disgruntled_republican said...

Weicker Liker-

Say it all you like it is just not true...I am sorry to tell you that, I really am. I know how devestated you are going to be since you have this nasty vendetta against Schlesinger but remember, the first step is always denial.

BRubenstein said...

Trueblue....i agree but i dont think this crowd has the balls to do that.

Weicker Liker said...

Disguntled...

Have you seen Schlesinger's numbers??

He would finish in a distant third with 8% of the vote.

I just cant believe the CT Republicans would ALLOW this opportunist to remain on the ballot when they know in their hearts of hearts he CANT win.

I was at the President's Dinner two weeks ago in Washington. Nobody from the National Republican Senatorial Committee were touting their high hopes for Alan Schlesinger of Connecticut.

No mention about him from people like Senator Elizabeth Dole, who chairs the organization that would support Schlesinger.

He is not even on their radar!

And they listed about 10 Senatorial candidates they were excited about.

You can keep drinking this Schlesinger Kool-Aide, but unfortunately, he WONT win.

MikeCT said...

Video clips from Lieberman's news conference.

You can ask John Larson if he'll support the Democratic nominee at his "town hall meeting" on Wed. evening in Manchester. Ask Kevin Sullivan on Wed afternoon between 3 and 6.

disgruntled_republican said...
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disgruntled_republican said...

Weicker Liker-

I am done getting into a pissing match with you so these will be my final comments. To be honest, your comments have no merit. I don't care that he wasn't on the "top 10 list" at your dinner...at that point he shouldn't have been as it wasn't a 3 way race.

A brief look back shows us that Jack Orchulli garnered 32.13% of the vote in a head to head battle with Dodd. One can assume that at the very least Schlesinger would get the same. That figured alone proves he is a viable candidate in a 3 way race.

I'll take it a step further. Some of the folks that voted for Dodd were Republicans. If you show them a Republican who is conservative fiscally such as Alan (which to those of us who actually talk to CT Republicans is the biggest gripe we have...spend, spend, spend)and the 32% number making him a viable candidate, they will be more inclined to vote for him instead of Joe.

Now add in the fact that joe is dividing the opposition party and energizing ours...plus we have Jodi Rell in 1A, Schlesinger in 2A and Joe, if he loses the primary, at 2E at best...and I can keep going but you SHOULD get the point.

Write him off all you want buddy, you say you have no axe to grind but I don't buy it...the numbers speak for themselves.

disgruntled_republican said...

Oh, and I least I forget, Orchulli was far from inspiring...and at least Alan has held office (which he won by defeating popular Democrats but hey, who's counting).

ProgCT said...

"If you show them a Republican who is conservative fiscally such as Alan (which to those of us who actually talk to CT Republicans is the biggest gripe we have...spend, spend, spend)and the 32% number making him a viable candidate, they will be more inclined to vote for him instead of Joe."

You think Schlesinger is going to get 32%? Would you care to place a wager? =)

Authentic Connecticut Republican said...

Weicker Liker said... "
I was at the President's Dinner two weeks ago in Washington.
"

I've often wondered what sort of shallow ego-tripping empty suits would pay crazy money to go to that dog and pony show.

Thanks for illustrating the point so well.

Weicker Liker said...

Authentic....

I never said that I PAID to go to that event.

I worked the event as a volunteer for the National Republican Congressional Committee

Still, National people do not have Alan Schlesinger on their radar.

Authentic Connecticut Republican said...

Weicker Liker said... "
I worked the event as a volunteer for the National Republican Congressional Committee
"

Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure ya did.

I suppose your weasel MacLean was the big buzz down there too, right?

I'll bet they all simply adored his plan to increase the size of congress to over 8000.

ROF,L

It's pretty obvious what he's all about; diminishing GOP turnout in the 1st - period. MacLean's candidacy has nothing to do with running for congress and everything to do with weakening Jodi Rell.

For corrupt Republicans, Rell's a problem and must go so those that wish to enrich themselves at taxpayers expense (ie: the past few years prior to Jodi) can get back to "work" (using the term `work' loosely).

I doubt the veracity of your posts in general terms; however there's the outside chance you're either one of the 3 stooges or aligned with them.

Known to pass out in bars and wet your pants are ya?

Done a little time and get out on a tech?

Big McCain guy a few years ago?

Weicker Liker said...

AR...

I was there.

Ran into Nancy Johnson and Rob Simmons.

Where has Miriam Masullo gone to?

I cant wait to vote against her on my absentee ballot

Authentic Connecticut Republican said...

Weicker Liker said... "
I cant wait to vote against her on my absentee ballot"


In that case you're as much an anti-semite as George Rockwell and are unfit for discourse with upright people.

Period.

Weicker Liker said...

AR...

Why is anyone that disagrees with you an anti-semite?

Are you that much of a foolish old man??

When is Dr. Masullo going to say anything to the voters? She has been very quiet over the past 40 days.

Has she even raised any money? Have not seen an FEC Registration for this cycle.

Authentic Connecticut Republican said...

Weicker Liker said... "
Why is anyone that disagrees with you an anti-semite?


Hardly.

However anyone the Simon Wiesenthal Center considers to be one probably is.

MacLean has yet to disavow his groups statements (meanwhile their affilate the PCUSA has issued a complete reversal) nor have you disavowed him.

Guilt by association?
You bet.
Next case Dr. Mengele.

Chris MC said...

Uh, ACR, you called me an anti-semite too though. I gotta wonder about that accusation because of it. Your sound position on PZC matters notwithstanding.

Authentic Connecticut Republican said...

Chris MC said.."Uh, ACR, you called me an anti-semite too though"

I don't recall doing that but maybe I did.

You must have said something
leading me to believe you're not willing to defend & support Israel.


I think 5000+ years is enough - period.

That is the primary reason I support the current war on terror.

Saddam has be unable to bribe suicide bombers to the tune of 50K a pop for some time now for example.

Meanwhile some American groups are sending aid to the new Hamas gov't which amounts to nothing less than supporting terrorism.

They might as well endorse al qaeda while they're at it.

For the record I'm not Jewish. I am however touchy about the treatment of the Bosses relatives.