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Tuesday, July 18, 2006

The Gubernatorial Debate: Not Ready for Prime Time

This time, the debate from Connecticut wasn't televised live on national TV. People didn't build their schedules around it, or go to a debate-watching party. In fact, the debate between John DeStefano and Dan Malloy was in many ways the antithesis of the Lamont-Lieberman debate of two weeks ago: instead of two bitter rivals who represent radically opposed, ideologically divided factions in the Democratic Party, these two men found more to agree on than disagree, and spent more time attacking the governor than one another.

It was sort of refreshing. It was also sort of dull. Here are the high points:

Both Malloy and DeStefano seemed to stumble out of the gate. Hard to blame them--neither man has really seen much media attention over the past two years. DeStefano seemed nervous, and played with his glasses (which he later removed) and shuffled his notes. Malloy tripped over his tongue a few times, and seemed to lose track of his point. Both men managed to recover, although to differing degrees.

DeStefano at his best seemed like an educated, intelligent man who understood the reasons why government did what it did, and how to make it better. At his worst, he seemed like an aging professor lecturing to a confused audience. He had a tendency to wander off from the question as he tried to educate his audience, and he seemed to ramble a bit. He had to be interrupted several times as he ran over his time. Malloy at his best seemed like a can-do, passionate and driven man, while at his worst he edged over into melodrama. He actually said in response to a DeStefano attack: "There you go again." Sheesh. Malloy also strayed, although he seemed somewhat more coherant.

On the issues, it was difficult to draw distinctions between the two. Both men share the same basic platform--they just have different ways to accomplish what they want and have varying levels of commitment to it. The debate seemed to come down in large part to which of the two men was more genuinely in favor of that platform, and which truly had the better record, and this is where Dan Malloy scored the only two clear hits of the night.

First, with the help of the crusty and entertaining Mark Davis, he dredged up an old story about campaign finance reform, in which Malloy and Susan Bysiewicz both pledged to return money from contractors, etc., if CFR was implemented for 2006. DeStefano didn't, claming it was unfair to change the rules in the middle of the game (DeStefano then held a sizable fundraising advantage). The charge was made that DeStefano wasn't really for it if it would hurt his campaign. Malloy delivered a stinging lecture to DeStefano, which DeStefano was able to effectively parry by pointing out Malloy's melodramatic delivery, but the point remained.

Second, near the end of the debate, Malloy commented on the state of affairs in New Haven's education system, and said that "I want to be a governor who will help you turn that around." Laughter.

Mark Davis of WTNH stole the show by being grumpy, demanding and unwilling to let the candidates weasel out of responding to his (and others') questions. He cut through some of the nonsense like a knife. I kept expecting him to leap out of his seat and start yelling at them. I hope he gets to be a panelist at more of these: he was a welcome relief!

As for who won? On issues, both candidates know their stuff. This was a highly wonkish debate. But Malloy was slightly better at communicating his message, and he seemed sharper than DeStefano, and so came out of the debate in slightly better shape. But his win, if that's what it was, wasn't all that convincing, and I don't think this debate is going to erase much of the confusion voters have about these two candidates.

51 Comments:

Blogger BRubenstein said...

Both were dull,boring and not very lively...the winner has too offer us and the public MORE then wonkish answers in order to beat Rell...and time is slipping away from them both.

7/19/2006 12:11:00 AM  
Blogger HealthcareNOW said...

What I thought was funny from the debate:

"There you go again."

Dan's not Ronald Reagan.

"When I was in fourth grade my teacher actually thought I was mentally retarded."

Com'on, I know from his commercials that he plays up the disabilities thing, but do you really need to say something like that. That is seriously pushing it - I couldn't even tie my shoes?! (I was at a bar watching this, and there was a guy who actually spit out his beer when he heard him say that and just started laughing hysterically, along with the entire crowd).

As for the debate overall, it was a little dull. I'm obviously rooting for DeStefano, and I think he made people nod a little more because he explained things better. Some people might read that as too professorial, but I thought he did a good job conveying the nuance of the issues without driving people to bed.

As for Dan Malloy, I felt like he was shooting for a soundbyte everytime he talked. And my god, how many times does the man have to say "I agree with John?" If no one can find a reason to vote for Malloy it's his own damn fault, he needs to stop being a "me too" guy.

DeStefano did what he had to do. He hit his whole "working families" thing hard, he got in the labor support from AFL-CIO, and he kept on talking about universal healthcare. Dan Malloy didn't help himself by going overly dramatic to the point where it's obvious fakery (i.e. campaign finance and his final blurb) and he didn't distinguish himself.

Malloy needed a killer debate tonight to introduce himself. He got nothing close to that. Since DeStefano's still up pretty big in the polls, he's where he needs to be.

DeStefano is the winner tonight because he didn't lose the debate and Dan didn't introduce himself very well.

7/19/2006 01:23:00 AM  
Blogger TrueBlueCT said...

Maybe the problem was that I was there, watching the debate audience and able to feel the audience's reaction.

First CTKeith and I thought Mark Davis came off as the big loser. He was quite rude in interrupting the candidates, and his questions were rather lame.

I didn't find the debate boring at all. It was great to hear John DeStefano talk about property tax reform in a very real way. And to me he didn't seem to come off as a wonk.

Malloy isn't coming from much of a different place policy-wise, but I was very disappointed in the games he played, particularly with regard to the campaign money issue. First, it's easy to be all for giving back the money when you are in last place, (as Dan was), and two, we all know the legislature wasn't going to pass a law for the public funding of the 2006 Dem primary. What Dan pushed was a bold-faced LIE.

Also, I've got to remark that Dan was very close to joining Joe Lieberman in the "I, me, mine" party. If only he was half as good as his pumped-up self-image.

Hats off to both candidates however by beginning to differentiate themselves from Jodi Rell. Four more years of Mrs. "I knew nuthing!" isn't going to do anything in terms of moving CT forward. We are being way too complacent in the face of real challenges...

7/19/2006 01:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've never heard of the political strategy of announing that you're a retard 3 weeks prior to an election... it seems a bit, well, retarded to me.

7/19/2006 01:38:00 AM  
Blogger HealthcareNOW said...

Anon, I mean I feel bad for harking on that cuz he is dyslexic (sp?) but I thought he abused that issues with his concluding remarks. Did everyone else feel that? At least at the place I watched it, the people literally cracked Malloy jokes for half an hour after that was said. I just don't know why he had to take it that far.

But hey, if he throws around his disabilities like giving candy to kids, I guess it's fair game to people to call him out on it.

I honestly thought he looked fake, and that is not the first impression you want to leave with a state where the majority of Dems have no clue who you are, and frankly, don't care because this isn't the most important race to most of them.

7/19/2006 01:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Molloy seemed to succumb to the stereotypical Fairfield County me-ism and give a big advertisement for Stamford. Was out of touch with the rest of CT, but continually promoted himself and Stamford. Molloy was unimpressive. I will vote for a person who has ALL of CT's interests in mind -- not just one city. I'll take professorial over ego everytime.

7/19/2006 04:17:00 AM  
Anonymous hello internet said...

Sheesh... spin spin away DeStefano people. The fact is both candidates did well, but Genghis is right: Malloy scored the only real hits of the evening.

To respond to a couple of the posts on here: If any of you don't think that growing up with a learning disability and going on to become Mayor of a large city is impressive (or that it says something about his character), you're insane, and you also have an obvious bias against the man.

Same goes for to TrueBlue and the campaign finance thing. Can you say with a straight face that if the roles had been reversed and it was DeStefano who had offered to give the money back, that you wouldnt be absolutely killing Malloy right now? Yeah... thought so. Fact is, if you're so right that the leg. wasnt going to pass it for this race, then DeStefano is REALLY stupid for not saying it.

As I said, I thought they both did well, but Malloy was able to distinguish himself more, and he won the debate.

7/19/2006 07:16:00 AM  
Blogger Chris MC said...

Come now, DeStefanites.

Malloy stung DeStefano badly at least three times with hard-hitting substantive points, and DeStefano's flailing responses, tone of voice, facial expressions, and body language reflected it.

DeStefano repeatedly took time from unrelated questions to attempt to repair the damage Malloy inflicted with his succinct, clear remarks - to the point where the crowd started laughing a couple of times because he was wandering around, not speaking to the question.

The most telling exchange was the one that ended with Malloy promising to help DeStefano reverse the declining percentage of home ownership in New Haven when Malloy is Governor. DeStefano himself (who at first had a stunned look - like he'd taken a stiff jab to the head) cracked up, along with everybody in the room.

DeStefano struggled to come back, but that finished him off. Malloy was already ahead on points with a couple of knockdowns, and won the contest on a TKO in the last round.

7/19/2006 08:22:00 AM  
Blogger GMR said...

All you guys talk about who won. My questions: 1) any idea how many people watched, and 2) anyone know of anyone who moved from one candidate to the other or from undecided to one of these candidates due to the debate?

7/19/2006 08:34:00 AM  
Blogger Wrath of Conn said...

If you were at the studio, one of the more impressive things about the night was that the Malloy campaign AGAIN out-did the DeStefano folks on the ground. They had more people, and many more signs. Where is all this labor support for DeStefano? There was some, but they couldn't even rival Malloy's supporter and volunteer base. AND Malloy had labor support of his own. If DeStefano can't get the labor people out in that part of the state, I don't think they'll be coming out much at all.

7/19/2006 08:36:00 AM  
Blogger Genghis Conn said...

GMR,

I'd guess 1) very few and 2) no.

7/19/2006 08:37:00 AM  
Blogger Gio said...

No one watched the debate,it was a couple of stiffs pandering to their tax and spend base.

7/19/2006 08:49:00 AM  
Blogger Chris MC said...

Very true, WC. Malloy's campaign paid attention to the details, their supporters were organized and did their part perfectly. Malloy's campaign headquarters was packed to the walls afterward with happy, enthusiastic supporters and workers.

By contrast, DeStefano campaign workers looked like their dog lost the fight, and by the time JD emerged from the building the crowd had largely dispersed.

What came through most clearly was that Malloy not only has the ideas and track record the state needs, but was able to talk about them passionately and clearly and convey who he was even within the confines of the debate format.

He had command of himself and the room, and his campaign ran like clockwork.

7/19/2006 09:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wrath of Conn - I was on the on the ground outside the Garde Arts Center. And it the DeStefano support was overwhelming. They have easily over a hundred people there.

Not only that - but the Malloy team was rude and threw a bunch of volunteers in front of the labor semi to chant "dan dan dan" while John DeStefano was giving his speech.

All the Malloy campaign could do was bus a bunch of kids up from Stamford on campaign bus - kids who can't vote, and a bus that probably costs a few valuable dollars to rent out.

7/19/2006 09:33:00 AM  
Blogger A Different Anonymous (No! Really!) said...

GMR, Genghis:

Well I watched the debate, and I can tell you it moved me ... to drink heavily. I poured several large Absoluts over ice and thanked God I don't have to pick between these two chowderheads.

7/19/2006 09:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think Malloy had to win this debate to stay competitive in the race and he clearly didn't. With DeStefano on TV for 3 weeks ahead of Malloy I would figure he's a good 15 points up. This might of been Malloy's last chance and he blew it. Two points here:

The campaign finance thing came off as a sham for Malloy. It's not an issue, this race was never going to be publicly financed and Malloy just came off as a liar who was trying to exploit a moot point. DeStefano wisely mocked Malloy's dramatics.

And talk about exploitation, it's one thing to talk about learning disabilities and overcoming them, that's admirable and attests to his character. But saying he was mentally retarded into the 4th graded, is a overdoing it. There's a fine line between proper usuage of his disability(his commercial) and exploiting it for political gain as he did at the debate again. Everybody around me started laughing when he said this, it was just such a blatant exploitation.

7/19/2006 10:06:00 AM  
Blogger bluecoat said...

JDS actually knew what he was talking about - and I have trouble with some of his solutions; Malloy more than once co-opted what JDS had already said when he didn't appear to have a clear position; in terms of just style and passion though Malloy probabaly won; and as for Malloy's closing with his story about his rise from childhood (everybody has one) as well as his suggesting anybody who was "against the war" should vote for him, I think that might have been because he had planned to attack JDS in his closing and had to shift gears when JDS didn't attack him in his - and that's all he has if he hasn't been pre-programmed. And Mark Davis wasn't going to play by the rules until the LWV Moderator put him in line.

I am waiting to see which one of these guys goes up against Rell and how that goes.

7/19/2006 10:11:00 AM  
Blogger disgruntled_republican said...

Anon 10:06 -

It's funny you bring up the campaign finance thing because I thought that was a great moment for Malloy in the debate.

Keep in mind I am a Rell supporter so I obviously don't care about this thing but it reminded me of Cheney telling John Edwards he had never seen him before when they debated in 2004.

The fact is it really was a pointless conveluted comment by Malloy but it hit home and JDS' reponse was horrible. The average voter wouldn;t know that it was BS they will only remember that Malloy hit JDS and JDS kicked and screamed about it...perception is reality.

7/19/2006 10:12:00 AM  
Blogger bluecoat said...

Cheney had in fact met Edwards before the debate; at least the bit about JDS was truthful; I also thought that JDS's retort to mark Davis was priceless but a little too quiet: OK, if they change it to '06 I'll give the money back. JDS needs to work on his stage presence.

7/19/2006 10:36:00 AM  
Blogger Wrath of Conn said...

anon said... but the Malloy team was rude

Really? That's not what the press is saying, and it isn't what happened. The union folks that did actually show up for JD were pushy as hell, to the point of trying to block Malloy and his wife from entering the debate. From the Courant:

Malloy and his wife, Cathy, were physically blocked as they walked up the street from their campaign headquarters on their way to the debate, Cathy Malloy said. Two people who blocked them were removed by police

7/19/2006 10:54:00 AM  
Blogger bluecoat said...

Mayors Agree: They Differ DeStefano, Malloy Debate On Policies, Try To Reel In Rell
July 19, 2006 By CHRISTOPHER KEATING, And MARK PAZNIOKAS Courant Staff Writers


Malloy, DeStefano find uncommon ground By Keith M. Phaneuf, Journal Inquirer07/19/2006
from the New London Day:DeStefano, Malloy Stake Their Claims Democratic gubernatorial hopefuls square off in New London debate By Paul Choiniere

7/19/2006 11:00:00 AM  
Blogger Jim said...

In fact, Cathy Malloy was almost forced to the ground by line on union JD supporters who locked arms and created a barrier.

I've always felt unions were a valuable force in a democracy, but the more I see of this, the more I wonder if they help in a democracy at all. Their reprehensible behavior last night sure seemed counter-productive.

7/19/2006 11:12:00 AM  
Blogger bluecoat said...

I ran out of hands and fingers to count the number of obnoxious comments form the Malloy camp I have seen on this blog; but anon 11:02 just wiped them all out in one ignorant post....I hope that is not what JDS is all about and that one of his people, if not JDS himself, comes on here to denounce it

7/19/2006 11:32:00 AM  
Blogger Gary Holder-Winfield said...

This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.

7/19/2006 11:34:00 AM  
Blogger Wrath of Conn said...

Yikes. Didnt you guys enable comment moderation exactly for ignorant BS like Anon 11:02?

7/19/2006 11:38:00 AM  
Blogger Gary Holder-Winfield said...

We all have our biases but -

Anonymous...




Really. Stop!

7/19/2006 11:38:00 AM  
Blogger Genghis Conn said...

Ugh. I didn't even see that nasty one... sorry, folks. Deleted, with apologies.

7/19/2006 12:03:00 PM  
Blogger Chris MC said...

The campaign finance thing [...] [i]s not an issue, this race was never going to be publicly financed[...]

No, because JD wasn't going to agree to it as long as he had the advantage. He doesn't feel that way now.

Where was JD on the night the bill was debated in the General Assembly? Dannel Malloy was on the floor, switching votes in favor of campaign finance reform.

JD's cynicism on this issue is plain to see. Malloy did exactly what he should have by calling JD's bluff on campaign finance last year, and he did exactly the right thing to hold JD to account last night.

7/19/2006 12:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is it just me or does Malloy creep anyone else out when he smiles?

7/19/2006 12:37:00 PM  
Blogger bluecoat said...

and Malloy agreed wayback to the hypothetical question of agreeing to go with taxpayer funded campaigns right away because he had nothing to lose: he needed the money; it's about as much of an issue as what color socks Harpo Marx wore in his first movie.

7/19/2006 12:54:00 PM  
Blogger Chris MC said...

and that's all he has if he hasn't been pre-programmed.

You apparently haven't found the opportunity to talk to this man, or listen to him talking with people.

He has a firm handle on the problems, a deep understanding of the issues, and an extraordinary record of accomplishment coming to grips with much of them as Mayor. He is able to convey all that in an articulate and forceful manner, consistently in all kinds of contexts. The ability to communicate that way is crucial in a leader.

By contrast, DeStefano consistently dwells on the problem, his presentation is mired in minutiae, his thought process is complicated and his presentation conveys exactly that.

DeStefano's proposals - which consist largely of adding new bureaucracies, layers of government that cost money and develop their own constituencies and manage problems rather than solve them - are just more of the same. We don't need a more sophisticated bureaucrat to establish more blue ribbon commissions to study things. We already have that with Jodi Rell.

The choice here is very clear, between a tired technocrat offering disproven theories and a spotty record, and a proven executive whose approach is to develop and implement real solutions to real problems faced by real people.

7/19/2006 12:58:00 PM  
Blogger bluecoat said...

Good point; that must be why a political newcomer of little name recognition gave DM a run for his money in the mayoral race last fall.

7/19/2006 01:03:00 PM  
Blogger bluecoat said...

Good point; that must be why a political newcomer of little name recognition gave DM a run for his money in the mayoral race last fall.

7/19/2006 01:03:00 PM  
Blogger A Different Anonymous (No! Really!) said...

Quoth Chris MC: We don't need a more sophisticated bureaucrat to establish more blue ribbon commissions to study things. We already have that with Jodi Rell.

HA! That's the loudest laugh I've had all day!

Jodi Rell has been described in many ways, not all of them complimentary, but never as a bureaucrat!

I think Chris MC spun so hard on this one he got a little dizzy!

7/19/2006 01:15:00 PM  
Blogger bluecoat said...

from Jodi's blog is:As I mentioned, the money for this plan comes from the revenues the state receives from the two Indian casinos in the state. And to ensure that the Legislature keeps its commitment to fund the program, my program calls for the money to be "intercepted" before it ever enters the General Fund. That way it goes directly to the towns, without being subject to the usual budget horse-trading.

This is real property tax relief. Not property tax relief that passes through the hands of the Legislature, then local government, and then maybe - maybe - filters down to local homeowners if no one comes up with a way to spend it first (and how often does that happen?). This is actual cash staying in your actual bank account, because you never have to write that check for your car taxes again.
that sounds like a bureaucrat to me and I want to see the car tax go but the only real tax releif is to manage down the amount the state is going to have to dole out to the towns to eliminate it not short circuit a current revenue source to pay for it.

7/19/2006 01:32:00 PM  
Blogger Chris MC said...

Jodi Rell has [never] been described [...] as a bureaucrat!

Well ADANR!, you can't say that anymore. ;-)

Mrs. Rell reacts to problems, appoints commissions to study them, doesn't propose anything bold, demonstrates an academic understanding of things. She hoards her political capital, takes no risks, and steers to the middle on every issue, trying to manage around obstacles and not rock the boat. She's an accidental occupant of the office, and acts like one.

We need an Executive with the chops and the track record get problems solved and lead. That's Dan Malloy.

7/19/2006 02:10:00 PM  
Blogger bluecoat said...

there is nothing wrong with studying an issue and JDS led the Commission that looked at the need fo proerty tax reform - the commission, which included a rep from the CBIA, reported out unanimously their recommendations. I heard JDS say during the debate that he wants to put them in place - and obviously they won't go down automatically once they hit the legislature but let's get going. I'd much rather have that than step-and-fetch-it Rell on the car tax or shoot-first-ask-questions-later Malloy on transportation but November is a few months away.

7/19/2006 02:22:00 PM  
Blogger Chris MC said...

shoot-first-ask-questions-later
I'd respond to that in its particulars, but I have no idea what it means, (unless you are referring the SWPA report that I still haven't finish reading).

But everything about his Administration in Stamford and his Gubernatorial campaign demonstrates that Malloy doesn't shoot from the hip on anything. He puts top-notch people around him and lets them do their job, both operationally and in terms of advice.

A record of accomplishment as an executive running a complex government and effectively working with (and when necessary defeating) an opposition party is what qualifies Malloy to be Governor, and disqualifies both his competitors.

7/19/2006 02:43:00 PM  
Blogger A Different Anonymous (No! Really!) said...

*sigh*

Do we really have to go through this exercise again?

doesn't propose anything bold
Right, because everybody else was doing such a great job of, for example, getting $1.3 billion in transportation projects passed, the vast majority of which would be paid for without bonding ...

takes no risks
Right, because her base just loved that whole civil union thing, and you saw how the GOP backed her on the public financing of campaigns ...

steers to the middle on every issue
Yes - just like she did on Michael Ross, not to mention (again) civil unions and campaign finance reform, and the way she wavered on issues like the millionaire's tax, ethics reform and the contracting standards board bill(s) ...

trying to manage around obstacles and not rock the boat.
Nope, not a boat rocker at all - and that's why she's so popular with the Bush crowd in Washington, for example ...

Puh-leeze.

7/19/2006 03:47:00 PM  
Blogger CTRevolution said...

I was hoping DeStefano would bring up Malloy's willingness to cut the estate tax and at the same time institute the tobacco tax which primarily hurts the poor. I think people should know where Malloy stands on taxes. It's a big reason that I won't vote for him and I would imagine for many others if they knew. Honestly, what kind of Democrat is for cutting the estate tax? Anybody whose for working people should be for keeping the estate tax.

7/19/2006 03:53:00 PM  
Blogger Larry said...

Dan's closing remarks were careless and showed the depths to which he is willing to go to exploit his so called "learning disability." (Not to mention, all Dan did was copy DeStefano on every point. Dan is a “me too man” if I' ve ever seen one. A veritable "Johnny come lately, if you will.) Anyone with a mental or learning disability would never refer to themselves as "half retarded." Dan Malloy has got his learning block, his mother's words and the Official Endorsement - and all his people on this blog. Other than that, he has nothing. And it seems to me that his mother and his deficiency are his strongest suits. Not good qualities in a governor, I must say. (Someone who can't tie his shoes and still quotes his mother more often than any other source? Sounds to me like he is severely lacking in everything except empty and vague language.)

Not my choice. No sir. I want someone who will pony-up and tackle real problems. Not someone who still remembers when he couldn't tie his shoes.

7/19/2006 05:27:00 PM  
Blogger HealthcareNOW said...

Jim:

If a couple of union people didn't let Cathy Malloy through, I guess that's wrong on their part.

But let me ask you: 1) Do you have any idea what Cathy Malloy looks like? Do you think these guys know what Cathy Malloy looks like? If she was with Dan Malloy then fine, but then it's two union guys who were wrong, but don't act like all unions are bad. I'm a DeStefano supporter and I don't know what DeStefano's wife looks like at all.

2) By two union guys' actions you're saying that all unions are counter-productive? What the hell are you a Republican or a Malloy supporter? Just because unions hate Malloy doesn't mean that they're evil. There's a reason why unions hate Malloy, he's been horrible to unions.

Malloy people, the more you bash unions with this nonsense, the more you guys sound like Republicans. But maybe that's your strategy, along with hating unions and abolishing the estate tax and being a proud member of the DLC, you guys ARE Republicans. Don't lie anymore.

Also, how ridiculous was Malloy when he said that people who are against the war should vote for him? That to me, was the most telling part of the debate. This guy is running for GOVERNOR, sees what is the most important race in this election season and throws out a BLATANT pander on TV. What Dan Malloy doesn't realize is that he is talking to HIGH INFORMATION VOTERS. They're voting for Ned Lamont not because they're stupid, they're voting for him because they know what's really going on.

So please, don't come around here asking for the anti-war vote from people like me for no reason. We're not voting based on the war in the Governor's race. If you think we're stupid, then that's fine. Pander all you want. Just don't forget that you told the state that you were considered retarded in fourth grade.

The next time you want to beat up unions, abolish the estate tax, be proud of your DLC membership, treat anti-war voters like flocks of sheep seek political gain from dyslexia, go ahead. You'll be seen as a Republican panderer.

Good luck on August 8. I'm voting for Ned Lamont, and I'm not voting for you.

7/19/2006 08:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Malloy closed the deal on this Primary last night. It is so obvious he had the most coherent and passionate message to give to the voters of CT.

John Fahan

7/19/2006 08:57:00 PM  
Blogger HealthcareNOW said...

nobody closed the deal. malloy made stupid mistakes, destefano didn't overwhelm him. whoever said it was "closing the deal" obviously is delusional from allegiances.

and also, no one can close the deal when no one knows who dan malloy is.

7/19/2006 09:22:00 PM  
Blogger Authentic Connecticut Republican said...

HealthcareNOW said... "
but don't act like all unions are bad....
"

Right....how many entire industries have they cost us?

Why is it that American workers can build a Japanese nameplate car here for 1200 less than it costs GM or Ford?

All unions should go the way of the Soviet.

Get treated like crap in Stop & Shop and wonder why? The rude schlep is next to fireproof thanks to the union.

7/19/2006 11:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was beyond impressed once again with the organization and presence of the Malloy campaign. Again, I feel they overshadowed the DeStefano campaign who I expeceted to have hundred of union members. Their presence was admirable and had a good showing. But, politics isn't about who has the unions. It's about passion and good ideas and energy for a candidate. That is what I continually see with the Malloy campaign. They didn't need a flatbed truck or concert speakers to be heard. They used their voices and on election day, they will use their vote to elect Dan Malloy. It's rather unfortunate that a group of so called Demcocrats feels the need to verbally assault another Democrat. I support Dan and know him personally but would never think it appropriate to insult John on a blog... And, even more so, to insult Malloy volunteers and suppoters and make fun of Dan's extreme learning disabilities? Wow. That's harsh and beyond uncalled for. Candidates need to be transparent and present the truth about their upbringing, their struggles and successes. Just like John talks about his family and his successes. Making fun of people is not democratic and not inclusive to thousands of people in our state with disabilities. Dan is a role model for what he has done in his life.
Dan has support all over the state as does John. That's obvious since there is a primary and Dan won the convention with only a few votes. But to get back to my original point of the Malloy support. Malloy has been inundated by volunteers of all ages and yes, he does have a large group of active young people/college students. Do you remember being young and participating in the process? I'm sure there are some of you out there who worked for McGovern. What about Clinton? Or more recently Howard Dean? Why is this a negative that in addition to Malloy's regular everyday working people supporters is he looked at negatively by many on this blog for also having support by students? Isn't this what democracy is all about? Getting people involved in the democratic process and encouraging them to run for office? Don't dismiss them. We need them. And, yes, i'm aware youth don't vote in the highest of numbers but in a primary and in all our elections, we should EMBRACE the youth vote. These kids came from all over the state to rally and see the debate. They weren't "bused in from Stamford" as one blogger wrote. They volunteered and have so for quite awhile. Didn't you seem them at the convention, as well?

Let's be a little better than this.

7/20/2006 12:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The union members were physically aggressive with many of the Malloy supporters and I wouldn't expect them to know who Cathy Malloy is but common sense tells you that the woman in a suit holding hands with Dan Malloy at the beginning of the parade was his wife. I was in that parade and we were unable to get through. This isn't a picket line guys. And, I usually support the unions but I was so disappointed with many, not all, of their behavior. Aren't we all supposed to be registered DEMOCRATS? You're going to push and block other DEMOCRATS? Very strange scene.

7/20/2006 12:22:00 AM  
Blogger Chris MC said...

It is probably a good thing I missed that part of the show.

There is a simple explanation for the "thuggery" of DeStefano's supporters.

Desperation.

And in the debate, Malloy demonstrated why they are so concerned. Yet Malloy is no enemy of labor.

Which makes what these individuals did all the more unjustified. Really inexcusable.

7/20/2006 01:27:00 AM  
Blogger bluecoat said...

It was theYankee Institute that named Jodi Rell the state level enemy of the taxpayer and gave the legislature honarable mention , not me. Rell had no choice not to bond the long overdue $1.3 million capital project transportation bill because the state's credit cards were maxed out by her friend John Rowland..

7/20/2006 09:27:00 AM  
Blogger bluecoat said...

and isn't this interesting:DeStefano questions Malloy's job claims

7/20/2006 09:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Francine Hunter said...

Molloy's comments about DeStefano and woman's health care issues are WAY OFF and obsolete! C-sections can and should go home in 3 days! Mastectomies do not need more than a day or two! Ask anyone in health care- the less time spent in a hospital, the better!!!Infections and other complications increase with every day one is in the hospital! The place for health care is IN THE HOME!!!Francine Hunter,RN,MS

8/07/2006 12:20:00 PM  

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