Thursday, July 13, 2006

Schlesinger: More Details Emerge

A story today in the Journal-Inquirer is shedding a little more light on Alan Schlesinger's gambling.
The viability of Schlesinger's candidacy was called into question Wednesday when Bradley Beecher, a retired Connecticut State Police officer whose last assignment was as commander of the Casino and Licensing Unit, forwarded to reporters copies of e-mails he had exchanged with Schlesinger and Rell.

Beecher, in his e-mail to the governor, said he was "able to document a long history of improper relationships between Connecticut Republicans and Connecticut casinos" and described Schlesinger's candidacy as "a train wreck in progress."

He said Scheslinger had called him and said he plays blackjack in casinos under phony names because, apart from using the pseudonyms to take advantage of "comped" items like free rooms and meals, "he is a card counter and wants to avoid detection."

Beecher, who after retiring from the state police worked as an investigator for the Mohegan Tribal Gaming Commission before the tribe eliminated his position in 2004, wrote that Schlesinger "is no longer permitted" at Mohegan Sun because of his card counting.

He also said Schlesinger had volunteered that he lost "at least $50,000" at Foxwoods Resort Casino.

...

"I have no idea what he's talking about," Schlesinger added. "I rarely go to casinos anymore because I don't have the time. The last time I went was before I ran for office to meet a friend from Florida on vacation in Las Vegas. I've not been dying to go to a casino. Last year, there were maybe three or four times I went to a casino."(Michak)

Make of it what you will. There is/was supposed to be some sort of press conference involving Schlesinger today--we'll let you know more as we find it out.

Source

Michak, Don. "GOP Senate nominee says he won't quit race." Journal-Inquirer 13 July, 2006.

52 comments:

bluecoat said...

as I said on the other thread, I beleive the retired state police Commander doing the outing had his own probleams when he headed up the state police casino unit; it's not unusual to have a state police commander uckfaying the bunny but I think this guy actually got caught by some rank and files and the taxpayers had to pay up

bluecoat said...

some Google on Beecherfrom his own company makes him sound a little like Looney Tunes to me

BRubenstein said...

Bluecoat..whether the Commander "had his own problems" is immaterial once AS admitted the essence of the Commander's allegations...

The issue before us is whether AS committed some ethical or criminal behavior..and the answer is NO.

Having said that, the next question is..whether AS's decepetive gambling behavior by using a fake name and card as "Alan Gold" will hurt him in November because the voting public will see him as decepetive and shifty..the answer is YES.

The Republican's can only request his resignation...then, if he resigns there is a process by the RSCC to go through...and some bloggers on that committee in here will have a vote on the new endorsed Rep for Senate.

bluecoat said...

BR: I don't disagree with you but I wanted to find out what was true and what isn't since the odds of finding a state cop in CT that tells the truth and doesn't play politics aren't much better than a crap shoot; gambling isn't a crime in CT nor is going to the casinos and I don't do or condone either. However,if AS used a fake ID, I beleive him - and like you I see that as he issue not all the other conspiracy theory crap put forth by Beecher in his e-mails; and as I said on the other thread I have a hard time reconciling AS's fake ID with his position on exporting immigrants who don't have legal ID's; I never thought AS was much of a candidiate - he was running to beat the odds -- and took positions that he thought could win for him -- his platform made absolutely no sense to me from the outset----

bluecoat said...

and BR: I am not 100% sure a wampum card in another name is a fake ID as I suggested above...

BRubenstein said...

Bluecoat..I agree that AS's position on immigrants with fake ID's ( while he had one also for gambling) indicates a certain hyprocrocy...just like when Joementum when he said " I will always be loyal to the Democratic Party" and yet forms a 3rd Party to run on because he hasn't the intestinal fortitude to accept a loss.

BRubenstein said...

Bluecoat..i would submit to you that most people would think AS was deceptive and shifty by using a fake name on a wampum card..whether or not its technically a "fake id"

The True Gentleman said...

Straight from the Foxwoods website, here are the rules for obtaining a wampum card -- Wampum Card

BRubenstein said...

Disgrunted....ACR ..True Gentleman...LitchfieldAngelina...Gio...give us your "takes" on the Schlesinger emerging scandal here..

Anonymous said...

The other issue is that a person who racks up gambling debt (I think AS put it at +/-$50K) and isn't independently wealthy presents just as big an issue as a person who is a big winner and doesn't declare his winnings---debt can be a cruel mistress.

bluecoat said...

BR: AS says he used the 'Alan Gold' moniker to stay off of the casino's marketing mailing list, which would be just fine with me, as long as he presented his real ID when he got his wampum Card...Radio Shack insists that I give them my name and zipcode everytime I buy a battery - I found it easier to just make one up when the rookie won't accept CASH for an answer because I don't want to get their catalog in the mail....it's just not clear to me what it takes to get a Wampum Card and I looked at TG's Link too, thanks...

disgruntled_republican said...

I am disappointed. While this is not illegal behavior it certainly is not acceptable behavior for a US Senate candidate. I give Alan credit for saying he won;t back out but at this point, with a chance for a Republican Senator I certainly hope that he does...as long as we have a high quality candidate to replace him....

If anyone thinks that we will replace him with an anti-war candidate they must be mad...

The True Gentleman said...

BRubenstein, I am going to tread lightly here for a little while longer because I have made some calls/e-mails to investigate this story a little more. For the time being, I have been informed that the statements made by Judd Everhart in the Hartford Courant article are accurate and reflect the Governor's position at this time (I am trying to dig into that a little more too).

Sorry to be so non-commital at this time, but there is a lot at stake here (with allegations of fake ID use, requests to reconsider staying in the race by the Governor and GOP Chairman, etc.). Regardless, this story hurts Schlesinger's campaign (even if the story turns out to be only that he gambles and not one of fake IDs and/or failure to pay taxes).

bluecoat said...

Beecher said AS told him he lost $50K but As has not confirmed it; some of the stuff Beecher says is Lonney Tunes - it makes no sense..

The True Gentleman said...

I'll join with Disgruntled Republican and say that it would make sense for Mr. Schlesinger to withdraw if there is a legitiamte replacement (and that person cannot be anti-war). He has quickly lost the support (not that there was a lot of prior support) of the Governor and the party chair, and that does not bode well for him.

Gio said...

It's amusing, AS really never had a shot anyways and this thing will kill him off (not that gambling, per se, should be a deal breaker).

Colin McEnroe was talking about the "rumors" yesterday that R's wanted to get rid of AS...and voila, he is done. The real problem for R's is we have no-one with name recognition who can win--Rell could but she'll be happy enough being Gov.

And the anti-war R won't fly.

Joe must be happy though, a day without Lamont in the news.

GOPLOVER80 said...

How about this post from Chris Murphy's Blog folks:

said...

Sarah, I heard that Barney Frank did an event for Chris in February. I wish I knew about it, I would have loved to have met him. How was the event and how can we keep up to date on future events like this?

Sarah Merriam said...

Hi Goodman:

Thanks for visiting our blog!

Barney Frank attended an event with Chris earlier this summer. It was a very nice day, though hot as heck, so maybe a February event would have been better! Mr. Frank gave an inspiring talk about the importance of electing candidates like Chris who will listen to the needs of their constituents and bring the ideas and concerns of Connecticut families to Washington.

SO NOW CHRIS MURPHY IS TAKING ADVICE FROM BARNEY FRANK ON CONNECTICUT'S FAMILIES?

This is from the August 27, 1989 editin of the Washington Post.

"In late 1985, gobie says, he began to use Frank's apartment and two other locations for prostitution. Frank knew about the prostitution. Frank knew about the prostitution all along, but it was never explicitly discussed, Gobie says."

"He knew exactly what I was doing, " Gobie said. "It was pretty obvious. If he had come home early {from work}, he would call home to be sure the coast was clear....He was living vicariously through me. He said it was of kind of a thrill, and if he had been 20 years younger he might be doing the same thing."

bluecoat said...

what's and "anti-war" Republican? Someone like Senator John "Hawk" Warner (R-VA), Nixon's SECNAV and now Chair of the Senate Armed Services Committee who got 77 US Senators - but not good old Joe - to vote a non-binding resolution last fall calling in Bush to bring about significant change in Iraq this year? The US Senate is not the House of Representatives...

disgruntled_republican said...

bluecoat-

They are not anti-war like this woman is...she won;t fly in our party...that's all we are saying. We want someone that has a real shot to win and she isn;t it.

The True Gentleman said...

Eaxctly, DR.

Griswold Dem said...

quite frankly, diana has never been a republican and no one in the caucus would miss her...except, or course, for those who've had the pleasure of the "Urban Sprawl."

BRubenstein said...

Disgruntled..a true gentleman..acr...et al..question for you all...i take it a new Republican can only be endorsed if AS resigns thru the state central committee by way of a special meeting called by Gallo?

Secondly..do you all agree with me that your party would never endorse a anti-war republican...or joe lieberman either?

Anonymous said...

Schlesinger is a lousy candidate, just another along the lines of Jack Orchuli (without the money). No one (R's, I mean) thought there was a chance in heck that Lieberman would lose. If they did, there would have been a much higher name recognition candidate. Now that Joe's weakness is showing, the R's realize this is their one shot to take him out. He is vulnerable, Lamont is there to siphon off liberal votes. This is the year to get Joe. But they are stuck with Schlesinger. I thought they would have bought alan off and he would pull out voluntarily. Apparently, that is not the case. Now he will be pilloried until he steps down. Then we will have O'Connor (who would lose his job), Stewart (who would not), or McKinney (who could run for both) step in for the good of the party. Alan will be gone by the end of the month.

The True Gentleman said...

I have to be honest, BRubenstein, I don't know the answer to your first question (I'm not very knowledgable about the procedures). As for the second question, I assume that it is unlikely that the Republicans would endorse an anti-war candidate (so long as the national party has not shifted course). And I don't see that there is any way that Senator Lieberman would ever be endorsed by the Republican party.

Weicker Liker said...

In regards to the sudden issues surrounding Alan Schlesinger, I told all you folks over the past few months that he was a terrible candidate.

And here we are with these relevations.

In regards to possible replacements, has anyone given any thought to Phil Steele? He ran for Congress in 2002 against John Larson. He does have decent name recognition.

bluecoat said...

My point was that there is no such thing as an anti-war candidiate but there are Republicans - in the US Senate specifically - that want Bush to do better and as far as this amateur analyst sees it the CT Republicans could play it that way with a candidiate in that balance of power vein instead of Joe who no longer appeals to anybody but the warmongers who like it when he says don't criticiize Bush and the so-called loyal Democrats like Fabrizi and DiNardo...in other words, the CT GOP could put up a Yankee Republican that I could vote for

disgruntled_republican said...

bluecoat-

Let me put it this way...she will not be anyone's replacement.

Authentic Connecticut Republican said...

BRubenstein said...
Disgrunted....ACR ..True Gentleman...LitchfieldAngelina...Gio...give us your "takes" on the Schlesinger emerging scandal here..



You're kidding right?

Has it dawned on you that maybe this would be a really good time to keep my mouth shut?

Email me a phone # (w/out a recording device attached to it) and I'll be happy to chat with you at:

authentic_CT_republican@yahoo.com

Too many in my own party already know who I am - I'm not about to post anything in here or anyplace else.

I may be opinionated as all get out, but I'm not crazy.

bluecoat said...

DG: I wasn't talking about Urban...

Authentic Connecticut Republican said...

BRubenstein said... "
Secondly..do you all agree with me that your party would never endorse a anti-war republican...



It would be over my dead body (and probably a few others as well) and I do have one of the 72 votes.


"or joe lieberman either? "


No comment.

The True Gentleman said...

"Email me a phone # (w/out a recording device attached to it) and I'll be happy to chat with you at: authentic_CT_republican@yahoo.com."

E-mailed.

Authentic Connecticut Republican said...

Weicker Liker said... "
, has anyone given any thought to Phil Steele?
"


A wonderfull man with absolute integrity no doubt about it.

I brought him as my guest to my first state central meeting; the man's truely a class act.

No fire in his belly however.

He's as kind and calm as his Illustrious father.


He ran for Congress in 2002 against John Larson. He does have decent name recognition.

Anonymous said...

I say Rell wants to endorse Lieberman. It would help her in the election.

MightyMouse1 said...

Maybe Chris Murphy could run for Senate as a Republican? He moved to the 5th to run, why not just change parties?

bluecoat said...

ACR: is your position now thatyou were wrong on Schlesinger becaust the guy didn't want to get on a mailing list??? and he always was in the anti-war category because he naively talked about cutting the trrops in Iraq in half and redeploying them to the Mexico border; typical suit talking about military affairs from the wrong orefice...just curious..

Jim said...

I've only made a handful of posts on here, usually in support of Joe Lieberman. The way things look now, I plan on voting for Lieberman either as a Democrat or a Connecticut for Liebercrat. However you'd like to put it. I've been a Democrat my entire life, but will not vote for Ned Lamont, though I expect him to win the primary.

However, if Schlesinger is replaced by John McKinney, who I believe is a sincere and principled man, I'll have a lot to think about.

If the Republicans endorse Lieberman, I'm voting for Mertens or Urban.

I just wanted to share my point of view as a lifelong partisan Democrat who can't remember a more exciting and messy Senate race. I love when politics is a circus.

GMR said...

From what I have read, this Diane Urban person is not really a Republican, in that she doesn't really hold any republican position.

Schlesinger wouldn't have won without any gambling issue. On the face of it, it isn't horrible. Personally, I think that what's really bad is that he lost $50,000, even if it was all his money. Shows a complete lack of self-control. The fake id thing seems more or less like a chance to avoid marketing or attention. And counting cards is of course not a crime any more than smart betting is.

Hopefully, he'll be replaced by someone who could get solid Republican support and maybe win a 3 way race. If Lieberman wins the primary, this is all pretty moot, no Republican is going to beat Lieberman in a 2 way race. The Republican won't get over 50%.

Authentic Connecticut Republican said...

bluecoat said... "...is your position now that you were wrong on Schlesinger"

Nope - in fact given the chance I'll vote for him.

I am however in contact with reality and it appears from press reports that Jodi wants him gone.

middlesexist said...

It looks like the CT GOP is trying to push AS out in order to replace him with a "viable" candidate. Any thought that that candidate might be Shays or Johnson? Johnson especially has the money, statewide name rec and fundraising prowess to run a real serious campaign in a three way race. It would concede the 5th District, but... are there any other plausibly electible Republicans in this state?

Wolcottboy said...

Like any other controversial issue, Jodi's just sticking up her finger to see which way the wind's blowing. Schlesinger has a scandal and he's not on the Governor's payroll? Gosh... hmm... we should replace him with someone who's lived in a cave the past few years.

Besides- who in Connecticut doesn't go to the casinos! (ok, ok, I don't, but that's not typical Connecticut Yankee's impression of other Yankees)

As others like GMR have noted, it won't be the 'big' issues from this that will affect Schlesinger. It won't be the fake ID part to partake in a card game on an Indian reservation. It'll be the personal responsibility factors such as losing $50,000 that have bigger potential to spilling over into his potential Senator's life.

Schlesinger shouldn't pull out because of this. Lieberman will have to deal with his closentess to Bush and Lamont will have to break his tree-hugging, liberal streak to appeal to the masses. Still sounds like an equal challenge. Yet- Rell and the R's typical fickleness will cost a potential Senate seat - not Schlesinger's past life.

The True Gentleman said...

Middlesexist, there is no way that Johnson or Shays would be the person. They are in two closely-contested races to keep their House seats and the GOP is at risk of losing the House. I just don't see how the national GOP could allow that to happen.

Anonymous said...

One question that hasn't been answered - Did AS use the fake name at Mohegan also to avoid card counting? If so, then his claim that it was only for wampum card is BS. Also, why use a fake name to avoid people knowing an elected official was gambling? If a constituent saw him there, he would be busted. It's not like they list the gamblers currently playing on a scoreboard somewhere in the casino. It all may be legal, but it doesn't change the fact that he's a lousy candidate, and was from the beginning. He has no respect from the party or its membership.

Anonymous said...

Maybe Jodi could convince Lisa ro run for Senate.

Chris MC said...

Prediction: The Cook Political Report will report that CT04 has moved from toss-up to leans Democratic before Labor Day.

Chris MC said...

Ooops. Wrong thread. Sorry.

bluecoat said...

people lose money at the casinos - that's how the casinos make their money - and Schleisnger has never confirmed what the nutcase state cop who Mohegan Sun fired has said he lost - the Wampum card is a contract between AS and Mohegan Sun; I don't herre them complaining; As is a lackluster candidiate; and it's intersting to see how ACR will fall in line just because lard ass Rell is being a hard ass on this....to me, loyalty is why the CT GOP does as poorly as it does

BRubenstein said...

ACR..give me a call at my office if you would...

bluecoat said...

inRepublican U.S. Senate candidate says he won't step aside
By SUSAN HAIGH AP Political Writer
AS says"In politics, there is always ulterior motives," said Schlesinger, when asked why the governor would make such a request. "I'm not going to question the governor on whatever she's thinking, but I'm very disappointed she would make a statement like that, especially without ever speaking with me."

Schlesinger, 48, said George Gallo, chairman of the state Republicans, told him before the Republican nomination convention in May that Rell had another GOP candidate in mind to run for the Senate. Gallo asked Schlesinger if he'd step aside and Schlesinger said no.
and another take on the AS/ lard ass fight:;;A Vow To Stay In The Race
Schlesinger: Party Leader Discouraged Him Months Ago
July 14, 2006By ELIZABETH HAMILTON,, DAVE ALTIMARI And EDMUND MAHONY Courant Staff Writers

bluecoat said...

more intrigue from gallo's amateur hour inOrchulli in the wings for Republicans? But Schlesinger insists he won't fold By Don Michak, Journal Inquirer 07/14/2006 and like Beecher who couldn't cut it outside of the state police culture another CSP alumni bites the dust for being an iidiotBrymer Fired

Authentic Connecticut Republican said...

bluecoat said... "... loyalty is why the ..."

To me loyalty isn't a big thing, it's the only thing.

IOW's My handshake means something.

After a few decades of behaving in that fashion people tend to both trust and take the person seriously.

My friends will tell you I am viciously loyal and both words are operative.

(Otherwise I'm just warm cuddly fun kinda guy.)

Authentic Connecticut Republican said...

BRubenstein said... "
ACR..give me a call at my office if you would...
"


Uh..okay.....where is your office and what's the number?


authentic_ct_republican@yahoo.com

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