Tuesday, August 01, 2006

U.S. Senate Endorsement

We have made our U.S. Senate endorsement: Ned Lamont.

How this works: The team members of the site voted on the candidate they supported, and the candidate with more support was endorsed. An endorsement and a dissent were written and posted.

Why we're doing this: Endorsing candidates allows us to express our opinion on the candidates. Since we have such a wide variety of opinion among team members and readers, we also thought it was important to publish a dissent from the endorsement.

Links:
Yestersday: Gubernatorial Endorsement

46 comments:

BRubenstein said...

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Susan B just announced that 10,000 u to d voters in the last few months..they are Lamont folks...and supports my in depth analysis of this race...Disgruntled is on the case as well and checked also..we should ask him to do the rep 1st CD analysis for us.

Sick of the Spin said...

I agree that the u to do voters play out well for Lamont...How do they play for Malloy/Destefano?

Also, what is the mandate on the victor if Sen. Lieberman (assuming Lamont wins)wins the general come November? I'm curious what the numbers would say in a three-way general with Lieberman as the Independent? Doesn't he pull enough D's and most of the R's to retain his seat in the Senate, whether or not he'd be effective is moot, I suppose.

bluecoat said...

on the U to D issue:Primary interest growing Many new Democrats in state
KEN DIXON
and inShays and Farrell trade charges SUSAN SILVERS ssilvers@ctpost.com , Shays once again says what a great guy Joe is, which makes me think the possiblity of McKinney jumping in is slim. McKinney and Shays do talk and I have never seen McKinney taking a whole lot of risks with his political career

Anonymous said...

SO there is really no reason to vote for Lamont other than the fact that he is not Joe Lieberman and is against the war. Wow, talk about an in-depth endorsement!!! I never thought of that.

A Different Anonymous (No! Really!) said...

I guess it is true: We get the government we deserve.

bluecoat said...

from today's Norwalk advocateLamont plays it straight on comedy show and Jackson, Sharpton to campaign for Lamont and of course who didn't know that there was a campaign going on in:Shays says he's being 'targeted' by Democrats and also from the Hartford Courant:
Running Silent
Lieberman and campaign volunteers won't discuss petitions being signed in support of a third-party Senate bid, should he lose the Democratic primary.August 1, 2006
By ELIZABETH HAMILTON, Courant Staff Writer

Anonymous said...

It is not safe to assume that U to D switches are for Lamont, and could easily be construed as a protest votes for Joe. And the figure is closer to 6700 from info I have seen. In the context of 800,000 U's a 1% conversion rate in the face of unprecedented national coverage, mega dollars spent on broadcast, and supposed netroots uproar, does not seem overly impressive.

bluecoat said...

Exodus of the wealthy a myth By Keith M. Phaneuf, Journal Inquirer 08/01/2006

Malloy,DeStefanofeud over debates By Keith M. Phaneuf, Journal Inquirer 8/01/2006

BRubenstein said...

anon..that figure of 6700 u to d is old..its now about 10,000,,

and once again...they arent Joe's....i checked both campaigns personally and taled to folks...Lamont has a seious u to d program...some of which is on his webpage...and Joe has none..so its pretty safe to assume that the vast majority of those 10,000 are Lamonts

bluecoat said...

from the NYT today:Connecticut Primary Draws Fence-Sitters and on the guv primary too: In Shadow of Senate Race, 2 Other Connecticut Candidates Face Off

BRubenstein said...

anon 11:59..Susan B thinks the 10,000 switches from u to d is very impressive based on historical data...just what is your authority to make such a determination? BTW that's 10,000 to today..and there is 6 days left.

BTW..cite some authority for your assertions...we dont rely on spin from anonymous sources..

If the final total is 15,000 u to d's..and it takes roughly 105,000 votes to win the primary....its a huge huge turnabout for Lamont.

bluecoat said...

not sure how i forgot to post his where Joe and Ned will appear togetherWal-Mart critics tour bus to stop in Bridgeport The Associated Press

Sick of the Spin said...

Just out of curiosity, what would Ned Lamont be able to do as a Freshman Senator in regards to troop withdrawl or anything else? (This isn't an endorsement for Sen. Lieberman - just curious how a liberal rebel rouser will work in the circle)

Genghis Conn said...

I imagine that that will have a lot to do with which party is in control of the Senate, sots.

Anonymous said...

Despite your years of political involvement, you have absolutly no idea how those u's are going to vote, you can say what you want, but you don't. And to say that Lieberman doesn't have u's identified and switching is stupid... thats where his support comes from.. a monkey could tell you that. And I don't know what BR is talking about with Lamont's u to d program on his website. I had to search for his voter registration link.

bluecoat said...

Seniority is not as much of an issue in the US Senate as it is in the House. What Lamont can do is what republican US Senators like Warner, Grahman, Spector, Hagel, and even McCain have done, which is put pressure on the administration to come clean with the American people on Iraq instead of debasing the debate with focus group tested stuff like if you challege us you are asking us to "cut and run" in Iraq. we are in Iraq for the duration and only political, diplomatic and humanitarian successes will ever get us out of there.

BRubenstein said...

Anon 1:52..Lamont's u to do program is found in his webpage " friends,neighbors,relatives campaign" and if you call the office ( as i did) they will refer you to the staffers that are handling that area.....when you call the Lieberman campaign ( as i did) there is no one handling the u to d's in his staff...so it leads me to this conclusion...those 10,000 u to d's most likely were responsive from the Lamont campaign...prolly are anti-war and registering to vote for Lamont.

Despite your best efforts, even you must realize its all over for Joementum...see you in the 3way in November.

Anonymous said...

BR- I thought you were going to say that, but that is clearly a GOTV and not a u to d.

"Your participation is a critical component of our campaign's success. Using our Family, Friends and Neighbors tool, you can send a postcard with a personalized message from you to your family, friends and neighbors in Connecticut. Later, follow up with phone calls to your get-out-the-vote list reminding your network to vote for Ned on August 8. It's a time investment of about five minutes yielding a Senator who will truly represent the people of Connecticut." From Lamonts Family, Friend etc.

Anonymous said...

Random observation:

In checking over the predictions that were made here while about the primary, I noticed a few things:

Of the different predictions, 40% said Turnout would be 30% or greater. All of those are predicting Lamont wins. 20% predicted light turnout. They are all predicting a Lieberman win.

Those predicting a Lamont win are split 50-50 over whether Malloy or DeStefano will win. The same applies to those predicting a Lieberman victory.

Those predicting a Malloy victory are expecting the spread to be 4% or less. Those predicting a DeStefano victory are predicting the spread to be 6% or greater.

Overall, predictions for Lamont outweight predictions for Lieberman 2 to 1. Predictions are equally split on Malloy and DeStefano

Anonymous said...

Hey Bruce -

I'm curious is your 10:57AM post supposed to be read in the voice of Howard Dean? You were a big Howard Dean guy, no?

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

Anonymous said...

its official this website is now officially called the following:

Connecticut Liberal Politics
Lamont Blog II
Keith Crane's Amateur Hour
Crane and Rubenstein Show

Hope all you liberal left wingers are happy that you have ruined The Connecticut Democratic

Patricia Rice said...

I keep hearing that people are tired of LaMonts dirty and negative campaign. I think it will back fire on him and he will lose the primary. BTW, I'm not interested in betting Bruce...I am not a gambler.

Anonymous said...

Hmmmm--Seems the anonymous posters are not onboard the Ned Express. While the named posters are all over Ned like a stain on Monica's dress.

So will a vocal self identified group of libs win next Tuesday? Or will a less vocal, but perhaps more numerous, silent majority speak loud and clear????

disgruntled_republican said...

Anon 401-

I normally wouldn't respond to your comments but c'mon...it's just not true and you know it. This is an open forum where people from all over the political spectrum come to read up on issues and comment on things in a reasonable, adult manner. Just because the candidate(s) you support did not get an endorsement from CTLP is no reason to come on here and bad mouth everyone that posts about the candidate they support.

Additionally, in case you did not read there is a dissenting opinion below the endorsement that was written by a CTLP blogger. Civility has been a topic much too often here...perhaps you need to look up the word.

Anonymous said...

This is the only blog on the web that gets criticized for being too conservative one day, and too liberal the next. I guess you can't win, but keep fighting the good fight, Genghis et al, and take it as a badge of honor. There are many of us reading who can appreciate and enjoy the posts, even when we don't agree (i.e. "adults").

Anonymous said...

Disgruntled Rep- I hear what your saying when I write that stuff it is aimed at Keith and Bruce. they have not been nice to anyone who posts on here with a difference of a opinion it is always nasty and sarcastic remarks by both of them. I think they need to allow others that have a differing viewpoint have a say.

I will not post my real name Because I know I would be attacked by those two on a daily basis. i have tried to talk civil with both of them but they do not allow anyone who has a differing opinion and there are a few others who support their attacks on bloggers.

I didnt mean to attack you or Genghis or the others i enjoy the blog I just get so sick of them two and a few others attacking Lieberman So that is why I have to speak out against Lamont and the only way is to attack them in return Because they dont listen.

BRubenstein said...

ANon 4:01...this blog contains all variants of political persuasions...including conservatives...to phase this blog as the " Rubenstein/Crane Show" does them a dis-service..

BRubenstein said...

Anon 2:56...call the Lamont office and they will give you the staffers handling the day to day U to D Program....and if you do the same for Lieberman..they direct you to no one...we report...you decide LMAO

BRubenstein said...

Pat Rice...I keep hearing that people are tired of Lieberman's dirty and negative campaign.I think it will backfire on him and he will lose the primary.BTW, im not interesting in betting Pat...i am not a gambler.

Alan Gold said...

I'm interested in betting ... I'm just not very good at it ...

BRubenstein said...

Anonymous 4:33...I hear your crying and whining that Keith and I are rude and sarcastic to you...The fact is that there are many bloggers in here that i am very respectful too...go ask GC,Disgruntled,A true Gentleman,ACR and others...all are either republicans..independants or demcrats different then i and all will tell you that i am civil to them...

BTW, as you can see..i post under my real name because i have NO FEAR...you should try it and stop complaining.

bluecoat said...

BR: you have to admit that you di get a little testy when I lumped you in with ChrisMC a few weeks back (;-

A Different Anonymous (No! Really!) said...

There’s a Don Henley song (The Garden of Allah) that seems to capture the Lieberman-Lamont primary very well ... Henley, as Satan, sings:

Because there are no facts, there is no truth, just data to be manipulated
I can get you any result you like ... what's it worth to ya?
Because there is no wrong, there is no right
And I sleep very well at night
No shame, no solution
No remorse, no retribution
Just people selling t-shirts
Just opportunity to participate in this pathetic little circus
And winning, winning, winning


The only problem: I can’t for the life of me figure out which candidate ought to adopt it as a theme song ... And that just makes me sad.

bluecoat said...

Makes you wonder there ADANR why Shays calls Joe a godd guy; at least it makes me wonder.

Patricia Rice said...

Bruce: In your 4:49 post you claim that you are not interested in betting and am not a gambler. There are many posts on this blog of you asking people to make bets. Your statement seems to be as inconsistent as Mr.LaMonts.

BRubenstein said...

Bluecoat...Chris and i are a night and day difference...

Chris MC said...

Ah, Brucie boy, a rare point of agreement between us.c

Anonymous said...

I was a Lieberman delegate at the convention - - - very concerned, in spite of my reservations about Lieberman, that Lamont's challenge would hand the seat to the GOP. While I disagreed with Lieberman on the war, I felt there was room for differing opinions on a single issue, even an important one. However, since the convention, I've had the opporunity to reacquaint myself with aspects of Lieberman's record that I'd somehow forgotten, e.g., his attack on First Amendment freedoms in concert with Bill Bennett, his putting his personal interests first in running for VP and Senator at the same time, and his failing to apeak up as the Bush Administration attempts to dismantle the underpinnings of a free society. Now that my memory stands refreshed, I would crawl across broken glass to vote for Ned Lamont on August 8th.

Anonymous said...

Bruce--

You are too funny...

Someone mentions that this is now the CRANE/Rubenstein site and you say it isn't the RUBENSTEIN/Crane site.. Talk about Freudian slip.... We know you think alot of yourself.

I am working on Joe's campaign.

Your call about Joe's U to D isn't the only call from former (or active) Dem activists who are not helping us, but on a fishing expedition. There is a total information blackout to ALL regarding our U toD program, A/B program, petition drive, polling, campaign stops, GOTV effort, etc.

Why would we confide in someone like you only to have it posted here?? You are not a friend of the campaign and we know that...

We are not as inept as you may think (or hope)we are, all knowing Bruce.

BRubenstein said...

Ptricia Rice..i was paradying your previous comment which i copied word for word....take a look

Of course i gamble....every day..life is a calculated gamble of risk's...the trick is to take a gamble with the odds...apparently with all his card counting AS still cant win at the tables.

Wolcottboy said...

I haven't begun reading yet, but I really like the Supreme Court- like style of the endorsement(s)/dissent!

(loads a tree-full of paper into his printer, gets out his desklamp and books of cross-references)

matt said...

Anon 952:
We are not as inept as you may think (or hope)we are, all knowing Bruce.

Sure you are. All your information gets out, because several of your people in house are passing information to your opponent.

People just enjoy mocking the campaign as inept, and public evidence surfaces often enough to validate that claim (the "hug" buttons, etc). I wrote to one Lamont worker with a bit of embarrassing LieberNews that I'd received on the DL, and he'd already heard it, and filled in a couple more details.

And I live in California, for christs sake. If I'm getting inside-the-campaign gossip from you guys, you're hardly running a tight ship.

Genghis Conn said...

Agreed. The Lieberman campaign really has been terrible.

Anonymous said...

Totally inept campaign. It will be used by wikipedia to show what not to do...and most of the stuff they mess up is campaign 101 stuff.

Anonymous said...

Sorry that I wasn't around yesterday to wish Bruce a happy birthday.

Happy Birthday Bruce, many happy returns.

Anonymous said...

Anon 9:52

"There is a total information blackout to ALL regarding our U toD program, A/B program, petition drive, polling, campaign stops, GOTV effort, etc."

Really! Its no big secret. Everyone here probably knows how to do some or all of it. You're not writing the book on it or doing it any differently so get over yourself. The question is whether you're doing it and BR says you're not and I said a monkey would. My advice, evidenced from your internal polling, is stop posting here and get to work because you're campaign needs all hands on deck.