It's Sunday. Two days until the election. Prediction time!
Here's what I see (and I am probably wrong on at least one of these):
Rell over DeStefano and Thornton by 10-15%. She will be the only bright spot for the state GOP on Tuesday night.
Lieberman over Lamont and Schlesinger by a much narrower margin than we expect, say, 3-5%. But he'll still win.
Farrell, Courtney and Murphy over Shays, Simmons and Johnson, all by less than 4%. But in each race, national trends are drawing independent voters across the lines, and away from the Republicans they've supported in the past.
In state, Democrats will continue to hold the General Assembly by a wide margin, and may even pick up a few seats in the House. Republicans have a shot at picking up a seat or two in the Senate (Caliguiri, Russo), but may lose Kissel. No radical shifts here.
The end result of all this is that the state Republican Party will find itself staring at utter oblivion by 2010. Welcome to Connect-achusetts.
Nationally, Democrats will win the House, but narrowly miss control of the Senate; and, after a brief pause to catch our collective breath, American political junkies will start obsessing about 2008. That last one is the surest bet of all.
So what do you think? What's going to happen on Tuesday?
27 comments:
Pretty sad when a 15 watt bulb, Rell, is a bright spot for the Republicans in CT.
2010 predictions, anyone? :)
(Blumenthal over Fedele)
I, too, agree completely with two possible exceptions: 1) Simmons squeaking through based on his role in the sub base translating into unexpected GOP votes in the SE Connecticut area; and 2) Lamont with a tight win. Saw the ballot for the first time today and Lieberman's ballot position is truly awful.
I think the Senate race is a toss up; there are way too many variables...
I've seen some "Vote Joe" signs that highlight his ballot position. Should have taken a picture.
Murphy's last minute campaign tactics are alienating voters in Cheshire. I think he will do much worse here than he is counting on, and due to Jarjura's tacit endorsement of Johnson loses Waterbury outright--and thus the election narrowly
Ned Lamont defeats Joe Lieberman by 537 votes. Alan Schlesinger gets a surprisingly large number of votes. People claim that many people voted on the A line, thinking they are voting for Lieberman, but really voting for Schlesinger.
Due to the closeness of the race, a statewide recount starts. Lieberman requests that votes in Waterbury are recounted by hand. Unlike 2000, Lieberman fights hard to make sure that every vote (for him) is counted. It goes to the Supreme Court. A full recount takes place with there only being issues where the new voting machines had been used.
Massive voter fraud is discovered in Waterbury with a smaller amount of voter fraud being discovered with absentee voters in Hartford.
In the end, Lamont wins very narrowly, and several Lieberman staffers end up going to jail.
I just went by Zoni's HQ, which is right on Main Street in Southington, and he has people all over the place.
Word is that he had a number of folks out in Waterbury this morning.
Democrats are notoriously better at GOTV efforts and Zoni is clearly continuing the trend. Other than visibility by staffers, Sam has been conspicuously sheltered. I've had many Republicans/Independants in Southington question why they haven't recieved a call from anyone in Sam's camp.
This is going to be a great race to watch on Tuesday night.
Take a look at Electoral-Vote (which was 2004's must-check-every-ten-minutes site for political obsessives) for a map showing Senate polls. Basically, Dems will lose TN and probably lose one of either VA, MO or MT. Tied.
Chris:
I'm not going to speak for the campaign, but I do know Dave's been making the rounds everywhere.
There is a ton of labor folks in the district and if they all vote in tandem, it could make for a very interesting conclusion.
The historical trend in this district is strange. Murphy's plurality in 2004 was due to Southington, he split everywhere else with O'Brien (who posts here regularly). The difference in 2002 was due to minimal differences in Southington and Cheshire.
If those trends hold constant and Zoni does extremely well in Southington (60-65-70), in addition to holding his own in Waterbury (45-50%), it will be extremely difficult for Sam to win. However, it would take a strange turn of events for Dave to approach 50% in Waterbury. He is more likely to pull 50% of Wolcott, but the Corky-factor could play a role. I don’t sense much resentment by regular folks (who we all know don’t know who they are voting for until they are in the booth).
That said, prognostication is not my career and the winner is still decided by those who pull the lever, or fill in the bubble.
But how large will the turnout for 18-24 year olds actually be?
If you remember, this is exactly what people were saying in advance of 2004--that the college-age vote would swing the thing to Kerry. And if college age kids had come out in force, they would have. But they didn't. There was a spike over 2000, but turnout for the 18-24 year old demographic was still a dismal 47%.
I guess we'll see on Tuesday.
"the pollsters are morons to suggest the official Republican nominee will not get 15% of the vote"
Please explain how a sitting U.S. Congressman nominated by CT's majority party who had received 70% plus in his last re-elect received barely 20% of the vote in the 1990 Governor's race?.
Everyone thinking Schlesinger will do better than Bruce Morrison must support medical marijuana
BTW Caligiuri wins Cheshire big. They love him at the Notch and at Paul's
My prediction is that people vote the STRAIGHT PARTY LINE for democrats. As the nation finally goes democrat, so will Connecticut.
There will be no vote spliting this time -- and DeStefano will beat Rell.
Lamont will beat Lieberman, by a small margin.
Lieberman will demand a recount, and refuse to vacate his senate seat. Lieberman will bleed this second loss for all it's worth, creating national havoc.
Farrell, Courtney and Murphy celebrate their democratic victories without much fanfare!
Hello-
First of all, I'd like to compliment you, on such a great site. This is the best political site devoted to a single state, that I've ever seen. (I also thought "Genghis Conn" was very witty.)
I would like to call your attention to the stories I've posted on BNN - www.bloggernews.net - in re the 2nd, 4th and 5th CDs. You would hopefully find them interesting. I'm from Pennsylvania, and though I've been through Conn. many times, I'm far from an expert on its politics.
To go directly to CT-related stories, we have a separate Connecticut News category - just cut/paste this URL:
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and that will take you to all of the CT material. If you're interested in all our congressional campaign coverage, for all states, go to:
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As you undoubtedly know, there are four vulnerable Republicans in Pa., and we have a lot of coverage on them.
Thanks - keep up such a great site...
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Actually if any polls were wrong they might have been last week's predicting a Democratic blowout. Here are the latest national polls
ABC News/Wash Post 11/01 - 11/04 LV 45 51 Dems +6.0
Pew Research 11/01 - 11/04 LV 43 47 Dems +4.0
Southington Attorney said...
However, it would take a strange turn of events for Dave to approach 50% in Waterbury. He is more likely to pull 50% of Wolcott
You're ignoring two key facts.
Wolcott went Bush by a bigger percentage margin than any other town in the state.
The 80th assembly seat (entirely w/in the 16th) has been in GOP hands for 28 of the past 32 years.
The 16th, after close to a half century under Democratic control went Republican with the Reagan landslide in 84; and back again in 88 until the carpetbagger took it 4 years ago. Thus the 16th has been Republican for 16 of the past 22 years and will undoubtedly be again with Sam's victory.
The over-the-line Zoni mailing cost Dave big. His and his shills having the audacity to defend that mailing has cost him even more.
Nothing less than sleeze.
I've lost all respect for him, and I did in fact vote for him last year for Town Council.
"oh yeah, nationally the Dems will gain a net of 35 to 40 seats in the House."
Dream on.. dream on.
Statistically speaking the majority in the house loses 29 seats in the 6th year of the current presidents term.
I don't see the Democrats even hitting that benchmark.
The increased indy registration may not help Lamont. Lots of independents despise party politics and reacted negatively to Lamont's "turncoat" argument. They felt the Democrats were trying to take away their opportunity to choose whom they thought was the best candidate.
That's hard to believe, I don't think Lamont made the sore loser argument enough. Whatever you believe politically, it's wrong to have someone lose in a primary and then run again in the general. If Lieberman wants to run as a Democrat fine, or as an Independent fine, but having it both ways is an attempt to overrule the electorate, and to further shield already overprotected incumbents from ever being unseated by the voters. What it's saying is that the challenger HAS to win twice, and can't afford to lose once, while the incumbent only has to win one time, and can afford to lose. That's blatently anti-democracy, and is illegal in many states. If Lieberman is successful here, it will open a Pandora's Box of copycat incumbents and lawmaker efforts to change state laws to reflect those of CT.
Genghis you are right about all your predictions save one.
Lamont will win.
And it may well end up being by a lot more than anyone is expecting.
I have felt very strongly about this for some time, and every single tangible factor with the exception of polls/media perception is heavily in Lamont's favor leading up to election day.
"um, like, charlie cook and stuart rothenberg back me up here."
Lots of people predicted Kerry getting the win in '04 too.
I'll guess we will see in 2-5 days ;-)
I suspect Shadow doesn;t talk much to the apolitical.
RE: Rothenberg. When you break his numbers down he has 16 R seats leaning D or D leading, and 20 "toss-ups". So to hit 30 plus the tossups had to break heavily against the R's
This was based on last week's polling and if the R party isn't in as much disrepute, first some lean D seats like CT 5 go back to toss up and second the toss ups break evenly or break a bit R.
http://www.rothenbergpoliticalreport.blogspot.com/
Predictions - write these down. They will come true. I guarantee it. (I think)
Rell beats DeStefano 59-41
Lieberman beats Lamont 47-44-9
Farrell beats Shays 53-47
Murphy beats Johnson 51-49
No recounts in any federal races, but all close.
Simmons beats Courtney 52-48
Dems pick 2 seats in the State House
Dems lose Murphy's seat (16th) in the Senate, gain Gunther's seat (21st) and Senate stays 24-12 (Kissel hangs on to beat Kiner and Finch hangs on to beat Russo)
U.S. House goes Dem by 10.
Dems easily take RI, PA, and Ohio in U.S. Senate, win comfortably in Montana, take Missouri, and narrowly lose Tennessee. Virginia goes to court to determine if the U.S. Senate is 50-49-1 Dem or 49-50-1 GOP.
Either way, all hell breaks loose as 2007 Congressional Session opens.
Cathy Cook does the best of the GOP underticket with 38% of the vote. Abbate does the worst with 32%. Roberts gets 35% and Farr 36%.
2010 - Bysiewicz vs. McKinney for Governor
CRAZY PREDICTION - Shays attempts a comeback with a 2008 run for U.S. Senate against Chris Dodd.
Fun stuff. Vote on 11/7, please.
HFL, evidently Conrad Burns and Linc Chafee have emerged from the dead this week . Stu might be surprised
7;04. Dodd's not up gain until 2010, at which point he will have served 12 more years in DC than Nancy Johnson has as of yet....will Chris Murphy demand that he step down?
Predictions on the competitive State Senate Seats. (Note: "Little" = <5%, "Lot" = >5%)
District 7: Kissel (R) by a lot
District 8: Herlihy (R) by a little
District 9: Doyle (D) by a lot
District 12: Meyer (D) by a lot
District 14: Schlossberg (D) by a little
District 16: Caliguiri (R) by a little
District 18: Winkler (R) by a lot
District 20: Stimman (D) by a lot
District 21: Debicella (R) by a lot
District 22: Russo (R) by a little
District 31: Colapietro (D) by a lot
Net-- Only two seats change hands (Murphy and Finch). Plus two for Republicans.
governor- rell over destefano 58-42%
us senate- lieberman prevails 48%-42%-10%
u.s. house- simmons over courtney 52%-48%; farrel over shays 53%-47%; murphy over johnson 50.5%-49.5%
democrats will win u.s. house gaining 19 seats
republicans keep senate while democrats gain 5 seats (lieberman will caucus with dems)
2008: mccain over clinton
2010: governor- fedele over blumenthal (very close)
senate- dodd retires
Oh, by no means can a candidate in the 16th win with just Southington. Though, interestingly, most of the efforts have been centralized here.
The district has always been decided by a combination of Waterbury/Southington. And with 70% of the district isolated within those towns, it's not surprising or shocking.
As the comments have shown, there are a number of factors that will decide this race. Zoni's the underdog, there is no doubt. But I don't think people would be overwhelmingly shocked if either candidate won. There would be disappointment and reflection, but I’m sure both campaigns are tearing at numbers, trying to figure out who wins and how.
Turnout, whether, GOTV efforts, party trends, etc will all play a role on Tuesday. We must also consider the statistics that show an overwhelming number of voters still have no idea who they are voting for the moment they step into the voting booth. Spontaneous thought can be deadly to a campaign.
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