Connecticut Politics and Elections: Coverage, Analysis, Maps and Commentary
Nominee for Speaker:Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-CA)Majority Leader:Rep. Steny Hoyer (D-MD)Majority Whip:Rep. Jim Clyburn (D-SC)Caucus Chair:Rep. Rahm Emanuel (D-IL)Vice-Caucus Chair:Rep. John Larson (D-CT)
It appears that Joe Courney supported John Murtha in his losing bid for Majority Leader.Today's Journal Inquirer reports...http://www.journalinquirer.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=17475248&BRD=985&PAG=461&dept_id=161556&rfi=6
Guess my prediction on the outcome of this race was wrong, but the long knives sure came out in this contest! Murtha was caught up in a 24-hour media sh*tstorm stirred up by his own party. Chalk one up for politics over policy in the Democratic caucus. "I am shocked! Shocked!"I see Don Michak caught up with Courtney, who voted for Murtha. Anybody know about about DeLauro and Murphy??
Rosa DeLauro publicly endorsed Hoyer a few days ago....Unsure about Murphy.
Hey Gabe, what does the Vice Caucus Chair do?
Good for my Congressman Joe Courtney; it was the right decision, even if it didn't pan out. I was actually going to write Courtney a letter asking him to support Murtha but didn't have the time. Looks like I didn't have to.
Didn't take long for Courtney to disappoint me.
Dude, disgruntled republican,you are a dyed in the wool Republican, I'm shocked, SHOCKED that you would be disappointed in a Democrat.
Courtney's first vote as a Congressman-Elect is for a person that was a target in the federal Abscam probe of congressional corruption. Although he did not accept the bribe, he was quoted as saying "You Know, we do business for awhile, maybe I'll be interested". GREAT, that's the kind of person I want my new Congressman supporting!?!?!
The Congressman-Elect stated quite clearly in the JI article that his support of Congressman Murtha was with the district in mind, particularily regarding Mr. Murtha's military and Pentagon ties, it made a vote for him a vote for Groton and the 2nd CD. Joe Courtney is already working in the best interest of our country. And please dont forget, Murtha didnt take the bribe!
To be accurate regarding, Murtha not taking a bribe he said "he was interested at this time."Hardly, a noble stance.
Exactly, when the chips were down and he thought no one was looking, Murtha turned it down. The fact that he wanted to keep in touch with the contact despite the intended bribe is indicative of the problems with the entire political system; that the main players you have to keep in contact with to get your job done as a politican are dirty, even if you're not. If there were other ethical suspicions about Murtha, this would look MUCH worse, I absolutely agree - but on its own, you can't assume anything. After all, why would Murtha accept a bribe next week that he refused to accept this week? Common sense, people.
Anon 504-Couldn't be more wrong. I am willing to give Courtney the benefit of the doubt but the Murtha vote disappointed me. And dyed in the wool is totally not the right term to describe me. Ask many of my politcal friends from both sides of the aisle.Anon 916-Murtha is the far Nancy Pelosi left of the party. Hoyer is the more moderate, and makes a nice balance with Pelosi.Courtney was elected by 91 votes folks, not 9,100. That is no mandate to go all liberal on us.Further, as Bob Sheifer of CBS said, this was a huge mistake for the Democrat party. If they want to govern effectively they need to be able to work together with-in their own ranks - and their is a clear difference here folks. You have a portion of Pelosi Liberal lefties from the current Congress plus a bunch of more moderate Democrats that were just elected to the next Congress. One of the things people seem to run on a lot is bi-partisanship. Well if you don't have it in your own party, how an you have it with the oppossing party. (This was one of the Republicans downfalls and here's a newsflash, I have often critized them here and other places for it.) They must be able to work with one another if they are to succeed. Murtha even running was a step in the wrong direction for this country, not just their party. And you can call me a Republican hack or a stupid conservative but if you really look at what I am saying, you'll know I am right. And so everyone knows, in elections I am a Republican, in life I am an American. More should take that stance.
Murtha failed to report to the appropriate authorities both the overtures to him and the fact that other congressional colleagues had accepted money.
Murtha will head up the defense approriations sub-committee. It only made sense for Courtney to vote for him or maybe folks don't beleive that Groton is slated for closure by the Navy..
Simmons gets called a saint by Republicans because the sub base wasn't closed, yet Courtney gets zero credit when his first move as a Congressman puts him in a better position to work towards saving Groton from closure.Priceless.
Shadow -I think I was pretty clear why I thought Courtney should have voted for Hoyer. Sometimes there are things bigger than us...this is one of those times.
I agree that the national reasons for electing the House Majority Leader superceded the local ones, I was just observing a fact.
It only made sense for freshman legislator, Courtney, to go up against Pelosi in his first vote. Gimmee a break folks. How about John McCain being one of the Keating seven - or was it five?.
And by the way disgruntled, keep in mind I have a lot more respect for you than the zombie rank and file Republicans; U realize you're more independent-minded, just like I am, and would rather pick effective mavericks than establishment drones, as evidenced in your support of McCain in 2000 and Schlesigner in 2006 (McCain at this point has lost a lot of his credibility, but in 2000, he would have been unstoppable in the general; he would have beaten Gore, or Bradley for that matter, quite comfortably, whereas Bush barely eeked by the appealing-as-a-disease persona of Gore and most likely would have lost to Bradley).
Shadow -I appreciate the compliment.And I agree 100% on your thoughts regarding McCain...and (I know I am going to catch heat for this comment but I don;t care)I think our country would be better off today with McCain as President the past 6 years and I most certainly would not still be depressed that my favorite Congressman ever wasn't to be anymore because he would have won re-election. That said, I don't think McCain can make it through the party primaries this time around, He will get zero support from the more conservative portion of the GOP. If you put a gun to my head, my money would be on Romney.
DR -Romney? I thought you had already signed up to lead the "McCain for President" campaign here in Northern Connecticut! McCain is the one from a practical stand point ... the GOP machine wants to keep the presidency. To do so, they need to pull back a bit and meet half way. McCain is already reaching out to the conservative base and has most of the GOP/Bush machine behind him. Remember, Republicans set long term goals where Democrats do not. The GOP moderates, out of necessity, behind McCain; and then continues to push forward in 2010 after electing McCain and slightly recapturing Congress in 2008. So, my money is on McCain ... care to place a friendly wager?
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