Thursday, April 20, 2006

Lots of News Open Forum

Lieberman's poll numbers are down, and getting dangerously close to 50% approval among Democrats. Analysis at My Left Nutmeg.

A memorial service was held for William Sloane Coffin.

Campaign finance reform, er, reform is being held up by the Zarella mess.

Rell is offering to fully fund the teachers' retirement fund. Excellent! If the governor is offering huge concessions to Democrats (for which she will take credit), it must be April.

Scroll down for lots of other great posts!

What else is happening today?

45 comments:

MikeCT said...

Please contact your legislators to ask them to make the necessary fixes to the campaign finance reform law before the session ends on May 3. Also the CT Citizen Action Group in West Hartford is looking for help staffing phone banks in the evenings - they are calling reform supporters and asking them to call their legislators.

TrueBlueCT said...

Joe is still sneaking around Connecticut. However, please be aware of these insiders-only meetings this Sunday (campaign officials have stated explicitly that rank-and-file Democrats are not welcome):

Norwich 1:30pm
Waterford 3:00pm

After covering all of Joe's fake diner stops, the mainstream press might oughta consider doing a story on Lieberman's break with democracy. What Joe is doing is just plain wrong. A series of campaign events to which only insiders are invited? It reminds one of George Bush!

For the record, no candidate in the history of CT has ever been so secretive about his campaigning.

What is Joe so afraid of? That some Democratic voter might ask the chickenhawk if he regrets never having served in the military? If he'll encourage his grandsons to serve since his sons didn't? If he'll be asked conflict-of-interest questions about his lobbyist wife? Or, on a more serious note, someone will ask him to commit to the Democratic Primary, or quit the Party.

What amazes me is that the DTC members play ball according to Joe's rules. Someone ought to say no to the secret meetings.

mod.dem.like.jfk said...

I cannot believe anyone is giving credit to a poll with a margin of error of 6.9%.

A basic course in polling will tell you that a MOE of +/-3% for a State wide race would require a sample of approx 1500 people were polled. It goes down from there. It is more complicated than this, but in general terms a =/-4% MOE is about 1250 and a +/-5% is about 1000.

7% though? With no report of the question, come on, seriously?

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Once again before Dean Fan, CT Keith, Bruce et al say that I'm a campain staffer, I repeat my disclosure that I am not affiliated with any campaign for statewide office.

TrueBlueCT said...

Lieberman's carefully orchestrated "turn-around week":

Monday-- The other Republican declares! If Dems don't vote for Joe, they might lose a safe seat.

Tuesday-- Awesome TV ads start running! Joe is shown as a "man of the people".

Wednesday-- The Manchester Dems reverse course! DTC chair Ted Cummings would rather be a "Joe Hypocrite" than risk a Schlesinger win! lmao.

Thursday-- The New Republic, aka the Lieberman Weekly, does it's hit piece on the Lamonster bloggers! (BTW, how in the name of heck did they dig up that 15-month old quote? I mean, I'm sure it wasn't given to them...)

Friday-- But nooooooo! Not Friday! SurveyUsa shows Lieberman falling fast in the polls.

Joementum Plans. The blogosphere laughs.

from the New Republic's Jason Zengerle:

"When the crowd finished applauding Lamont, a Lieberman staffer named Ken Dagliere addressed the committee. (Lieberman himself would appear before the committee the following weekend.) Dagliere, a portly man in an ill-fitting suit, had recently been detailed from Lieberman's Senate office in Washington to work on the tightening campaign, and he didn't seem terribly pleased to be there. Desperately scanning the room for friendly faces, he beseeched those in attendance not to let their views on the war cloud their judgment. "Obviously, you know, we can all disagree about that, but there are a lot of things we agree on," he pleaded, citing instances in which Lieberman had opposed or criticized the Bush administration. He rattled off a laundry list of liberal interest groups that had given Lieberman high marks for his voting record. And then he trotted out the hoariest argument available to incumbents--the argument about seniority. "He's a member of the Armed Services Committee," Dagliere said of Lieberman. "He has great influence in obtaining Department of Defense contracts." But the crowd seemed unimpressed, peppering Dagliere with hostile questions, such as why Lieberman's campaign literature fails to mention his foreign policy views. "Frankly, I just don't want Senator Lieberman representing my party," said one questioner. "How do you respond to that?" Dagliere stammered for a moment and then was speechless."

ctkeith said...

mod.dem.like.jfk,

We'll just call you Matt if thats OK.

I didn't notice you complaining about Survey USA (which had the best #s in 04 if I remember correctly)when your Daddy wasn't in Freefall.

truth squad said...

mod dem, please dont use common sense, it only angers and confuses ctkeith. trueblue, you forget the part of that article when the greenwich millionaire turns in his lexus convertible for a politically correct hybrid and the part when he distances himself from the bloggers supporting his efforts. ooooouuuuch.

TrueBlueCT said...

Truthy, I gotta admit, --yeah, it hurts.

The hybrid I can understand, what with Ned now driving an average of 200 miles a day, Lamont owed us the hybrid.

But turning his back on us diehard bloggers. That's unforgivable! In this regard he reminds me of your Joe Lieberman. No real respect for those that "brung him to the dance!"

P.S. What happened to The New Republic, aka the "Lieberman Weekly". Is it under new management?

truth squad said...

trueblue, cmon man. you are smarter than that, the greenwich millionaire was driving many miles at the time of the interview too. your acceptance of his distancing himself from you is surprising. i have always admired your consistency, but you seem to be skewing off of that here.

TrueBlueCT said...

Hey, I wanted Gary Collins! Instead I get "Mr. Lamont goes to Washington?" You are right. I am incensed. The Lamont campaign doesn't even have an effing blog!

What I want to talk about is Joe Lieberman. When is his next public appearance?

Patricia Rice said...

LaMont campaign is falling a part. Dead Ned was just a flash in the pan and his 5 minutes of fame is over.

truth squad said...

hate to say that we sort of agree on something, i thought gary was a great congessional candidate a few years back until he got screwed by redist.

ctkeith said...

Patricia Rice,

Isn't some old guy with Alzheimers in need of your talents?


Truth Squad,

When this is all over those ill fitted suits will finally be replaced by robes which hide alot of sins.I think they'll be a better fit.

truth squad said...

ctkeith, i know it must be hard when the candidate you embrace publicly distances himself from you, but dont take it out on us in the blogging community. i admire your passion but you are not doing what you are doing for the sake of the dem party, you are doing it to further your hatred of joe.

TrueBlueCT said...

Truthy--

No one hates Joe. Most of us Dems feel he has sold us out, and we are genuinely disgusted by his frequent appearances on FoxNews. Additionally, we can't believe a chickenhawk could be so hawkish. Why aren't Joe's sons in Iraq??

However, hate isn't at work here. This primary is just desserts. Not a mission, not a vendetta, not a crusade. Just good old-fashioned accountability. Once Joe leaves public office, I wish him all the best.

P.S. All of us bloggers are upset that we are being so completely ignored. It's horrible when a politician takes you for granted...

disgruntled_republican said...

TrueBlue-

You keep dodging the question...if Joe wins the primary, will you support him? Yes or No.

Abd I again ask, is necessary to call republicans "repukes"?

Again, I will start referring to you as the logo tells me to if that is the case

Gabe said...

You know what else is interesting about that poll? Among Liberals (presumably who would be voting in a Democratic primary), Lieberman's numbers have actually crossed the rubicon and his approval/disapproval is 46/49!

Mod.Dem.JFK - If you didn't like the numbers above, you really aren't going to like these - MOE is +/- 9.2.

Two points about MOE:

1. Its natural that, when breaking down a poll into segments based on characteristics, the MOE gets pretty high when you look at individual segments. The way around this is to over sample the specific groups you want numbers for; here, SUSA wanted to break down every possible segment - it would have been prohibitively expensive to over sample each of the groups to keep the MOE managable.

2. If you are focus on the trend lines rather than the actual numbers, the MOE becomes largely irrelevent. The 49% percent mentioned above may not be totally accurate, but the fact that it is significantly less than it was 6 or 12 months ago is less subject to the MOE than a solid number is.

MikeCT said...

Let's be clear on exactly what Lamont outlines as his points of "difference" from a couple of bloggers who were in a bad (and immature) mood:

Let the record show that Ned Lamont does not consider Joe Lieberman a whiny-ass titty baby. Nor does he believe that Connecticut's junior senator is a douchebag, an ass clown, or any of the other nasty names liberal bloggers have called Lieberman--whom, with those bloggers' help, Lamont hopes to defeat in this August's Democratic primary. "I really regret that rhetoric," Lamont said one recent afternoon, blushing a little as some of the derogatory appellations for Lieberman were read back to him. "I think he's a good man, I think he's a patriot, I think he does what he thinks is right. ... I just happen to think he's wrong."

So a U.S. Senate candidate doesn't think we should call his opponent a "douchebag." Could he have any more common sense? He also says he reads mainstream media more than blogs - yeah, along with other 99.9% of Americans. Bloggers should be upset about these "revelations"? Please.

Go_Huskies_2006 said...

On the question of secretive campaigning by Lieberman -- I think all the incumbents are doing it -- anyone seen a public schedule for Simmons or Johnson? Haven't they been on vacation (as usual with this lazy congress) for a couple of weeks? So where are they?

disgruntled_republican said...

Go-huskies-2006-

Yeah, they are out fishing with Rosa DeLauro and John Larson on Chris Dodd's boat. Please. These guys arent in a primatry. They still have work to do. And what if they are on vacation...havent you ever taken one?

stomv said...

Regarding the funding of pensions (something that's near and dear to my heart), the article mentions

Devoting an extra $246 million from surplus to bolster this fiscal year's and next fiscal year's contributions would bring those payments to the full level recommended by analysts, but still would leave the overall fund below the 70 percent mark.

So, its progress. Hopefully, next year will also be strong, and Rell will be willing to put another $246 million into the $10B pension. Using surplus to pay down debts and meet pension obligations is a fantastic approach, and one that the Dems and the GOP should be able to agree on.

BRubenstein said...

I am very surprised that the Lamont staff didnt have an ad "in the can" to respond quickly to Joe's ad, or come out first with an ad ( a bio piece)

To the Lamont staff...please send a dvd to all the delegates about Lamont and his positions right away and have followup calls made to get delegate support.

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ctkeith said...

I just wanted to let Truthy Know I was Devastated That Lamont didn't think Lieberman was a whiny-ass titty baby but not suprised He didn't think Joe was a douchebag or an ass clown.After all douchebags and ass clowns have a use.

A Different Anonymous (No! Really!) said...

ctkeith:

And which of the three, I wonder, would you use to describe a malevolent little toad like yourself?

Try contributing something besides venom, why don't you?

TrueBlueCT said...

disgruntled--

For the third time, yes, I will reluctantly support Lieberman in the general where he to defeat Lamont in the primary. Like Ned Lamont, I am already on record about this.

Go_Huskies_2006 said...

disgruntled

I wasn't complaining about them taking vacation but I think they are here somewhere just keeping it secret like people said Lieberman is, that's what bothers me. If they are going to go to events in their state then why wouldn't they tell people about it?

truth squad said...

ctkieth, the greenwich millioare said alot more than that. he publically ran away from you. but hey, if your ok with that, thats your business, i just know that i would be a little embarrassed.

disgruntled_republican said...

huskies-

Rob is in Vernon today going on a tour with the mayor and deputy mayor. Since he is not in campaign mode yet, and it is an official visit, they do not publicize it so they don't get everyone and their mother there while they are trying to do their job. Makes sense to me.

BRubenstein said...

To advance the discussion to another arena...

By this time, both Malloy and deStefano must have a decent idea of their respective delegate numbers...could some please inquire of both candidates and post it? It would make for a good lively discussion.

The fact is by this time someone would have proclaimed supremecy in the delegates and if both camps are quiet could we be heading to a close convention vote? If that is the case that the vote will be close...then malloy has the momentum ( im for destefano) and Destefano let him back into the game.

disgruntled_republican said...

huskies-

He is also in Enfield with the Deputy Sec. of Commerce for a luncheon. They go to Vernon from there.

I'll see if I can find out what he is doing on Saturday for you.

Rear_Admiral said...

Gabe- since you're part of the burgeoning UCONN Law lib cabal, can you give us any insight on this Lex Paulson who's challenging Cafero? Worth contributing to? Just a tolken to give him a race? How bout some background? Is that seat winnable?

goodbye said...

Trooper accused of sex assault and while on duty apparently according to this text you want to appearfrom the CT Post. Innocent until proven guilty but disturbing nevertheless.

mod.dem.like.jfk said...

Gabe- Good point on the break out numbers showing the MOE going up. I hadn't thought that when I first looked at the numbers. What is the MOE for the entire poll (pre deriving the individual ideology appoval numbers)? I cannot find it.

BRubenstein said...

rear admiral....im a lawyer also..as are many of the elected officials from Dodd and Joementum on down...its the most desirable post graduate degree to get if you want to be involved in politics in a bigtime way. So, take it easy of us....and there is a cabal !!!!!!!

Rear_Admiral said...

Bruce--I meant it in only the best context.

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BRubenstein said...

GC..Thank you for posting the Rev. William Sloane Coffin Memorial..i knew him in the late 60's and early 70's when i was in SDS ( students for a democratic society) and he is a legend with a world following in progressive politics...

Kimberly said...

BTW - the Lamont family car, which they have owned for quite a while (before Ned thought about running) is a hybrid. Ned was a proponent of hybrids long before the thought of running for senate crossed his mind. They were only using his convertible until the campaign was in a position to purchase a better car to drive around.

truth squad said...

kimberly, ok my bad. so the greenwich millioanire's weekend car was the lexus convertable?

TrueBlueCT said...

Bruce--

Re the delegate count. I don't think either Malloy or DeStefano has a majority locked-up.

The free radicals are the Lamont delegates, those who are very much against Bush, the Iraq idiocy, and Lieberman. The fact is, when it comes to the gubernatorial candidates, most of the Lamont people don't have a strong preference-- both candidates have made good arguments for themselves.

I'm personally for DeStefano, at least when he isn't giving two thumbs up to Joe Lieberman. Malloy is running an impressive campaign, but I'd have a tough time voting the DLC'er, particularly with so many Lieberman people on his staff. However, to DLC Dan's credit, he has spoken up against the war, and for gay marriage and universal health care.

P.S. From what I've heard, roughly half of New Haven's delegates will be going to Ned!!!

ctkeith said...

Truthy,

Don't worry about Neds Ride.In 2007 he'll be driven by that same retired state trooper in the car you get to open and close the door to now.

turfgrrl said...

Rear Admiral,

Lex Paulson is a sacrificial lamb set up to fail. He doesn't know this of course, but since he doesn't live in the district he's running in, it's an uphill battle from the get go.

Red State. Blue Balls said...

turffgurl/admiral,

Sounds worse than sacrifial lamb to me. That district is overwhelmingly Republican. Think this Lex kid is getting used.

hartford_for_lamont said...

TrueBlueCT said...

"Joe is still sneaking around Connecticut. However, please be aware of these insiders-only meetings this Sunday... A series of campaign events to which only insiders are invited? It reminds one of George Bush!... For the record, no candidate in the history of CT has ever been so secretive about his campaigning... What is Joe so afraid of? That some Democratic voter might ask the chickenhawk if he regrets never having served in the military?"

Yep, that is what it has come to; just like Bush, Lieberman can now only appear at tightly vetted or secret closed-door events; just like with Bush, the electorate is so angry with Lieberman, he dare not allow an ordinary citizen to freely question him!

I imagine that with Lieberman's huge sense of self-entitlement, he bitterly resents having to go to the DTC's and personally beg for their votes. That is a clear testament to the power of the Ned Lamont movement, which has forced our Senator fuddy-duddy to have to go out on the road and personally beg the DTC's for their votes.

turfgrrl said...

Red State. Blue Balls,

Yeah, you have to question the competence of the Norwalk Democratic party these days. I'm hoping to expand on the Norwalk scene soon.