The Town Line Diner in Rocky Hill nestled in a working class neighborhood in a Wal-Mart shopping center typifies the suburban towns that lie along I-91 between New Haven and Hartford. It was here that John DeStefano met with CLP as part of our series on "Meet The Gubernatorial Candidates".
DeStefano, never shy about talking about politics, and what he thinks, opened the conversation with a speech, "just for you guys."
The Big Idea
"Good politics is porous, and it's open"
For DeStefano, the son of a New Haven police officer, it has meant a greater accessibility and openness to new ideas on how to tactically change policy. No matter where a question started, DeStefano invariably brought it back public education and how New Haven has brought many different approaches together from community based policing to establishing a "Democracy School" to foster an open, bottom-up, approach to government.
"Everything I thought about making the public schools successful, I just think, it is essential to strong democracy," explained DeStefano. "In New Haven , it meant something called Democracy school, we actually run classes on civic engagement.
He then touched on plans to sign a vendor to create a wireless network in New Haven, making it the first wireless city in Connecticut.
From his stands on community based policing to universal healthcare DeStefano believes in the give and take of the ideas is the path to good governance.
DeStefano acknowledges that much is work in New Haven has been through the efforts of the many people trying different things but always with an eye on building consensus. As DeStefano pointed out whether it was the Sikorsky labor dispute or the Yale labor dispute, the negotiations were a study in understanding human nature.
At times during the wide open conversation, it seemed that DeStefano was running against Hartford instead of the mayor from Stamford, although Malloy was never far from the conversation.
His recent comments about Jodi Rell's proposals addressing the violent crime in Hartford had stirred emotions. He stood by his words though, adding that you "Can't police yourself out of this."
Specifically to Rell's proposals; "Jodi's response is literally that, a 1950's southern response. I don't think she gets it."
DeStefano's experience in New Haven has led him to be much more interested in engaging populations where they are and much more interested in prison relief programs.
Like many good conversationalists, the subject turned to other related issues, and DeStefano pounced on the estate tax.
Criticizing Dannel Malloy and Jodi Rell, DeStefano says its absurd to fix or eliminate the estate tax. To DeStefano there's no linkage between wealthy families and job creation in this case.
DeStefano held more contempt for eliminating the car tax. He explained how he believes that the benefit of eliminating the car tax is exclusive to wealthy people only, providing the anecdote that Greenwich resident, Tommy Hilfiger who owns 21 cars would get the most benefit from eliminating the car tax. What DeStefano does not say is that Greenwich also has one of the lowest car tax rates in the state causing the disparity between the Greenwich Hilfiger often paying less in tax per car than the average 1992 K-Car owner in Bridgeport.
Tomorrow is another day.
Echoing the words of Scarlett O'Hara in Gone With The Wind, DeStefano opined, that If you don't get everything you wanted to day, tomorrow is another day. To make a city strong - he spoke to making it safe - making the schools work for the middle class and increasing economic opportunities.
"Your usual small town isn't begging for wal-mart, they just want to make their school budget work, right? Well maybe there's a way to do both. You got to believe in the win-win."
With suburban sprawl DeStefano paints a wistful look at how urban areas and the suburbs can coexist because the urban areas want the density and the suburban areas just want to preserve the character of their towns.
DeStefano bristled at the suggestion that his city still had a reputation that people from the suburbs avoided coming into New Haven.
"The fact is I have school district with 21,000 kids, 1700 of them are suburban kids that come form 21 school districts. I have the largest inner district magnate program in the state of Connecticut."
"People come in each and every day sending their kids to come to public schools in new haven."
"Look at whose renting housing in downtown New Haven."
"There's a generation of kids experiencing New Haven starting at 11 o'clock tonight. They are suburban kids."
But DeStefano's support of the kids coming into New Haven wasn't all that evident just a few years ago where the city of New Haven fought to close down clubs like The Tune Inn and refused to give permits to local young artist groups like ideat village. Local merchants too remain wary about DeStefano's new wisdom regarding local businesses, smarting from his strong support to the ill-fated Long Wharf Mall. As for the perception about New Haven it remains, out there whenever there's talk about the economic benefits of various New Haven festivals.
And when it came to building big box stores, New Haven wasn't the choice of Walmart (Branford), Target (Milford), Best Buy (Orange), Sam's Club or Lowe's (West Haven & North Haven).
DeStefano deserves credit for creating Connecticut's cultural capital, with strong support for education, the arts, and for making New Haven a more enticing and safe city. But his message of regional economic development still isn't reaching his suburban neighbors.
The ghosts of DeStefano's pasts stand in contrast with the DeStefano of the present. The DeStefano of the future though seems headed in the right direction.
"It's time to regional planning and development. You gotta start thinking this way. It's bull that we are paying $5 million a year for Wal Mart, one of the wealthiest corporations on planet earth, not to get way, to get away with not having decent health care for their employees. "
Whether its universal health care or transportation, the issues that drive change must be paid for. To this, DeStefano gave a thoughtful response.
"You have to explain to people why they should care about paying for it. This is not about getting people in Farifield County home earlier at night. It's about growing jobs and wealth."
Jobs cluster around transportation infrastructure ports and then highways. You gotta give people the reason."
"How do you pay for it? One you have to have a governor who doesn't refuse to go down to Washington D.C."
This is where DeStefano of the future broke free from the every day reality of a political record.
"Connecticut in America, has a special role in creating change across the nation. Civil rights laws, or the character of the nations economy. Connecticut has always been the kind of place where things happen --first. It's something we've lost in our politics and in our policy."
"We've had that tradition of being innovators and ingenuity. And we're not anymore. On some social policy we are, right, campaign finance reform... Think about this, in one year, out of the legislature, it didn't come out of the governor's office, campaign finance reform and civil unions."
"We ought to be doing that on redefining the economy."
As he said, "A smart little state like Connecticut does it, makes it work, makes some mistakes, fixes the mistakes, That's Connecticut's gift to the rest of nation, this constant sense of innovation and new ideas."
Whether DeStefano succeeds in his mission to win the Democratic primary on August 8th remains to be seen, but for DeStefano, tommorow will always be another day.
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My word processor finds a synonym for "porous" is "soft"
Perhaps it knows more about John DeStefano than his own supporters
If Connecticut has a cultural capital, New Haven is probably it. There's a more vibrant arts and music scene there than probably anywhere else.
Good post. Only one complaint--there is a Walmart and a Lowes in New Haven. They are actually right next to each other.
Yale has been in New Haven for 305 years. If the University was the sole genesis of New Haven's Renaissance, don't you think it might have happened sooner?
I do not think the solution to our economic challenges is some wimpy guy who thinks we can put an art gallery on every corner.
Once CT was the "arsenal of democracy". What are we now, the yuppie paradise?
JDS seems to be obsessed with class warfare. How he could possibly think that the car tax only benefits the wealthy, and then citing Tommy Hilfiger as an example, is beyond me. He obviously thinks that either there are a lot of wealthy people or that they all live like Hilfiger.
Everyone with a car pays the car tax. Sure, Tommy Hilfiger pays the most now and would therefore benefit the most, but so will everyone else who has a car. Well, actually, in the pure economics sense, what happens is that the state will reimburse the towns for lost revenue. The state will therefore have to either cut spending, or raise some other tax, or go into debt to cover the shortfall. However, eliminating the car tax would get rid of a very regressive tax, in that the wealthy towns have lower mill rates due to larger grand lists.
What strikes me about JDS though is that he really seems to just throw out proposals, and I can't imagine that anyone on his campaign staff has really thought about how these proposals could be implemented, and if they did, what their effect on the state would be, and what effects they would have on people's behaviour.
Look at his transportation policies, for instance. On his web page, he laments that Bradley has only a few international flights, to Canada. What makes him think that the airport could possibly have transatlantic flights, when Logan and JFK aren't really that far away? Actually, he wants transpacific flights as well. Why does he think there is enough demand for there to be these types of flights? Hartford is the 44th largest metro area in the country, it's just not a major city. It doesn't even have a major league sports team (although I guess if anyone asks, he'll promise to bring back the Whalers).
Widening 95 is something I'm all far, but how is he going to pay for it? Would the federal government pick up some or most of the tab? And he seems to want to have commuter trains going everywhere. Along I-84 for instance. Has this ever been an issue? Does the state own the land to build the tracks and stations? How is it going to afford it? How many people might ride this train?
He wants to extend Route 7, which would be great, but how the hell is he going to do this with the fierce opposition from environmentalists and NIMBY folks? And where's the money going to come from?
Yeah, freight rail is underutilized and Metro North has issues, but many of these are the result of events beyond Connecticut's borders. Metro North is the only rail system that uses both a third rail and overhead wires, so you cannot just buy ready made rail cars. The VA cars are going to be used on spur lines (and shore line east), which are Diesel and then those cars are going to be used on the main lines. There's no major freight rail crossing near NYC, and if one happens, it'll be a federal issue (pushed through by CT and NY sens and congressman) and the governor of CT has little to no influence on this.
That equal pay for equal work plan is a complete fiasco. It may sound all and good, but when you think about how it's going to be implemented, with the state reviewing people's salaries and then trying to determine, instead of the market, which job is equivalent to which other type of job, you'll get a complete mess.
He's got the state pension fund investing $50 million "to support high-performance energy projects with strong returns." If there are a bunch of potential projects out there with good returns, investors will be swarming over them. Those private equity, venture capital and hedge funds in Greenwich and NY: they're looking for deals. They want good returns. There's no political incentive required. If you're a fund manager, you don't make the big bucks unless you are getting into deals with good returns. Almost all state pension funds already allocate some money to these funds. Let's face it, if the government needs to be coercing the state pension board into investing in various projects, their returns are not so great for the risk involved. And to those state workers who are relying on pensions for retirement, don't let this guy decide how to invest your money.
A lot of what JDS advocates sounds great at first blush, but there's just no way that most of it can happen or will really work.
He seems to think that a lot of this stuff can be paid for by jacking taxes up on the super-wealthy or by taxing Walmart. There's just not enough super wealthy people to pay for all the stuff he wants (the transportation stuff, lower property taxes, universal health care). Especially when you factor out the wealthy people who cross state lines into Manhattan to go to work. NY State is keeping those income taxes, so CT gets none.
how about a state pension fund investing its money so it can pay pensions?
John DeStefano doesnt know where Litchfield County is anymore actually it slipped his mind once he picked Scotty too Hotty Slifka for Lt Governor.
Well on August 9th DeStefano will remember Litchfield County and how he screwed them over for The Morons of West Hartford when we all vote for Dan Malloy and Mary Glassman and we will say DeStefano Who? Slifka who?
John DeStefano will not be our next Governor just as Scott Slifka will not be our next Lt Governor and THANK GOD Ned"Left Wing""I am buying my way into The Senate" Lamont will not be our US Senator.
I am looking forward to Dan Malloy defeating Jodi Rell for Governor,Mary Glassman beating Michael Fedele for Lt Governor and Joe Lieberman beating Ned Lamont.
Real True Americans not Anti-war lets turntail and run like you left wingers want to do.
Ned Lamont Wrong for The Senate Wrong For Connecticut!!!!!
I will vote for the Real American who works hard and doesn't have to buy his senate seat Joe Lieberman
i am anonymous and I approve this Message!!!!!!!
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