Monday, May 08, 2006

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Check out this headline. Makes sense to me. (screen cap here) I don't know why I think it's funny.

Hearings on the Marco Polo fundraiser will start Wednesday.

More bloggers are getting famous. It's amazing how much press blogs are starting to generate, especially for the Senate primary.

What else is happening?

46 comments:

mod.dem.like.jfk said...

I have heard Ctkeith on the radio, seen him on tv, and read about him in the newspaper....are those the four horses on the horizon?

Don Pesci said...

The most telling graph in the Courant story is this one: "Crane (ctkeith) had stood by the senator, if only grudgingly, through his vice-presidential and presidential campaigns, his speeches supporting the Iraq War and even his appearances on Fox News Channel. But the peck on Lieberman's cheek from President George W. Bush after the 2005 State of the Union Address left him feeling betrayed."

There is no indication in any recent posting by Mr. Crane that he "stood by" Lieberman, even grudgingly, as Lieberman "supported the Iraq war in his speeches." One does not like to think that Mr. Crane's position on a war turns on a kiss.

BRubenstein said...

Im glad Keith is getting exposure for the fabulous work he does in advancing his cause. It was also great to work with him on the Dean campaign.

As this blog get more visable then other worthy folks will get media attention as well.

So far i have enjoyed the individual postings of everyone across the political spectrum.

I suggest that there be some sort of social event for the posters.

bluecoat said...

Susan Haigh from the AP on how the two sides are spinning the latest legislative session.

mod.dem.like.jfk said...

DP- Its a courant story and I'm sure a bit of fat was added to it. CTkeith congrats on the press.

For other Lamont news, please see the New Haven independent article running on ctnewsjunkie. Apparently those volunteers are turning out in droves to get people to sign lamont petitions. oh wait...

bluecoat said...

Bush Turns to Gen. Hayden to Lead CIA fresh form the AP and some comments on it from some pols with Joe who should be in the mix going silent until he can test the political winds. I won't vote for Joe or the cable guy.

cgg said...

I love the headline. It's what happens when an editor's cat comes anywhere near the kayboard.

Don Pesci said...

modem -- If the line is incorrect, Mr Crane should be invited to correct it here.

tparty said...

Apparently those volunteers are turning out in droves to get people to sign lamont petitions. oh wait...

mod.dem-

Did you even read the article? There weren't many volunteers at the meeting because they were all out in the field petitioning.

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mod.dem.like.jfk said...

3rd- The article shows a picture of a small group and says:


"Addressing a small room-full of petitioners-in-training soon to join those already out collecting signatures, Vale began...

...“It’s grassroots support like this that’s going to get Ned on the ballot,” said Vale of the hundreds of petition-drive volunteers at work since last Wednesday to get the roughly 14,000 (or 2 percent of all registered state Democratic) signatures it will take to get Ned Lamont's name on the ballot against incumbent U.S. Sen. Joe Lieberman in the August Democratic primary. (Wheelwright, Tess. "Thank You For Not Coming" New Haven Independent. May 5 2006.)

I will conceed that the writing is ambiguous at best. But I read it to mean that the reference to those already out collecting signitures implies that they will be joining those out since last Wednesday, not those who already attended the meeting and went out.

So don't be so defensive. Its ok, for a campaing to get bad press every once in a while, and as I mentioned yesterday, after Lamont gets his 15% at the convention, he is going to have to get used to bad press...thats what happens when you make it to prime time and every reporter wants to be the one that breaks the story to take a candidate down.

ctkeith said...

Don Pesci,

I voted for Lieberman in every election I was eligable to since 1974 when I turned 18.I didn't like Liebermans support of the Iraq War which I predicted would turn out just like it has but didn't turn totally against Lieberman until around the time of his now infamous "noone apologized to us for 9/11" which he said in a Senate hearing.

He said these words to excuse the use of torture on Iraqis who had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with 9/11 and who we already new at least 75% of them were toally innocent.

Lieberman was never my favorite Democrat but in 2000 I voted for him for both VP and Senator.From 2000 foward Lieberman message has been Democrat good Republican bad to the point where he's already all but endorsed John McCain for President in 08.
This reporter used a little license to make the impact a bit stronger and I'll forgive her for that as it seems to happen whenever I've spoken to a reporter.

Genghis Conn said...

mod.dem,

That's a great comment about the nature of the press. The coverage of Lamont has ranged from nonexistant to really good, without trending too much into bad at all. Right now they're down on Joe and high on Ned. Could change quickly, especially after the convention cycle dies down and the primary campaign begins in earnest. Just something to be ready for.

As an example, press coverage of Gov. Rell, which was pretty fawning for the first year and a half or so, is starting to sour. It isn't souring much, mind you, but it isn't as friendly towards her as it was.

tparty said...

mod.dem-

Yeah, that Paul Bass piece was such "bad press" that the Lamont campaign decided to feature it on their official website.

mod.dem.like.jfk said...

3rd part-why?-

if they think a picture of 9 people in HQ is a good depiction of their volunteer effort, more power to them!

(Oh and it was a Tess Wheelwright article, credit where credit is due.)

bluecoat said...

I think somebody at the Defense Contract Management Agency is concerned about losing Joe.

ctkeith said...

GC,

Thats absolutely correct and I think everyone in both campaigns realizes that this is Lamonts Hoeymoon period with the press.

I expect it may continue longer than the Lieberman folks think only because Joe refuses to come out and play and Seans Smith in insisting on "managed appearences" and has a "low information Voter" strategy.

I've been to 2 of Liebermans "meetings" (it would have been 3 but we were asked to leave one at a K of C event before Lieberman showed up)with Delegates.At each of then he was 45 minutes late and never even apologized for that.He never invites the public and these events aren't even publicized on his campaign website.Sean Smith and Company are using the same tactics Karl Rove did with W.They want to manage the audience and as long as they do Lieberman can expect poor press and Lamont,who will speak to any and all audiences,can expect the honeymoon to continue.

mod.dem.like.jfk said...

GC- Your point on Rell had me thinking about the upcoming Dem primary for Governor. Is it better to have a unified front and a concentrated message against an incumbant than it is to have a primary which excites the base (the argument I keep hearing for why this will be good)?

I tend to lean toward a concentrated message strategy is better than eating our own, but I know there is no way that either DM or JD back down if they were to lose at the convention. The concentrated campaign sure didn't help Billy Curry, but I can't imagine a Malloy Destefano bloodbath is going to toppel M.Jodi. Either way, the trick in 02 was that we had a party chair with some pull that could negotiate a compromise. I'm not sure DiNardo can pull that off.

I'm curious what people think and if there will be any pressure on the convention loser to step aside...

bluecoat said...

the masses who vote don't pay attention to the challengers until well after Labor Day.

Genghis Conn said...

There will be ENORMOUS pressure for the convention loser to step aside if Democrats think for even a moment that Rell is vulnerable, and they can win.

Chris MC said...

We shall see how the petitioning drive turns out. Sounds like they are going about it in an intelligent fashion. But it does seem like newbies pounding the pavement, not much in the way of party regulars. The Lamont campaign does look a lot like a reconstituted Dean campaign.

How long do they have until the requisite number of signatures have to be submitted?

disgruntled_republican said...

mod.dem.like.jfk -

There will be a world of pressure for the loser to step aside. I agree that neither will. If the 2 of them do not turn the primary into a bloodbath and stick with issues, it will be effective. Once the summer comes and no news is swirling, they will be it and get a ton of press...helps energize the base and increases much need exposure for the middle.

If either or both go on the attack at each other...it helps Rell big time as she can take the high ground and say nothing while both JDS and Malloy would come out of the primary looking bad to the middle and can have a negative affect on the party as well.

I think the whole primary will be interesting...

bluecoat said...

the next six months running up to the election will see more and more Rowland turds that are still around floating to the surface for all to see.

bluecoat said...

and Jodi will limit how many debates that she will participate in becasue she is "busy running the state" so the Donkeys would be fools not to keep the primary going with JDS and DM so a few people can be brought in to thinking about the election before labor day

ctkeith said...

GC,

There will be almost no pressure at all for the loser of the Gov. endorsement to step aside.The decision to have a primary and the infrastucture for it has ALL been put in Place.August 8th and the Dems interested enough to vote are going to make this decision and thats not only good for the party it's good for the state and the country.

Genghis Conn said...

Keith,

I don't know. I know a lot of Dems who think a prolonged gubernatorial primary fight will be very bad, esp. since it'll be overshadowed by the Lieberman/Lamont primary.

Genghis Conn said...

Then again, they usually go on to say that THIS is why the guy they don't support ought to drop out right now.

BRubenstein said...

Folks...More interesting then some sort of deal in which we see the loser backing down at the convention is..By now both JDS and DM must have an idea of their respective delegate counts...neither side has come out publically declaring that they have the votes and thus the endoresment..which means either that the votes are close or both campaigns are so screwed up that they can't come to a real honest count.

mod.dem.like.jfk said...

I guess my question is not "will there be pressure" but "who will bring it" and is there anyone within the party that can broker a deal like Olsen did in 02?

mod.dem.like.jfk said...

brubenstein- I agree and I think its close. Even within local town committees in North Central CT delegates are so divided that the campaigns are litterally fighting for every last delegate. this is going to be decided by a handfull of votes at the convention

bluecoat said...

Just to prove my point about Jodi and her John Rowland campaign strategy - and it does look like it will be the same - here is her campaign schedule for anyone interested.

BRubenstein said...

Mod Dem...there is no deal to be made..in fact a primary may be good for the winner as it gets him some free coverage.

In 2002 the deal was made and George Jepsen didnt live up to his end..as the LT Governor candidate he only raised about $50,000. and didnt break a sweat.He, i think was counting on curry to lose and he(jepsen) would step in as the leading candidate in 2006...which didnt work out for him.

ctkeith said...

GC,

There is no leader in the Dem party who can force either JDS or Malloy out.Dinardo certainly doesn't carry the clout to make it happen and neither does any of our legislative leaders.

JDS and Malloy both have the financial backing and the political backing to go foward and Rells recent troubles are just the tip of the iceberg of whats coming this summer.

If the convention vote for Gov. were totally lopsided there would be alot of pressure but right now although I still believe JDS will win I'm not even certain of that.

Genghis Conn said...

I have a suspicion that Malloy will eke out a win at the convention, but I have no idea how the primary vote will go. JDS's huge union support, which will help his GOTV efforts, may be the decisive factor.

BRubenstein said...

GC..what is your authority and proof that DM will win the convention? Trust me...if DM had the votes at the convention you would have seen a press release and news articles.

If your thinking is only a hunch...that isnt anything to go on.

Genghis Conn said...

As I said, just a suspicion. A hunch, based on what appears to be some Malloy momentum over the last six months. I don't have any sources, this is just what I think is more likely to happen.

But if DeStefano wins, I won't be surprised, either. It'll be close either way.

Brian Durand said...

Hey everyone -- this past Saturday the Malloy campaign held its "Malloy ConneCTion Bus Tour". 15 high school journalists joined Dan and the campaign as we traveled to a number of events in the Hartford area. They got to spend the day on a bus with Dan, asking questions and seeing the campaign process from the inside. It was a lot of fun. CT New Junkie wrote about it here, and I just posted on our blog about it here. We'll be putting some more photos from the various events up in our photo gallery shortly.

blueper said...

I think the union support for JD is overblown. Endorsements from leadership don't matter much, and aside from some activity in New Haven I don't see union members getting too excited about this race.

disgruntled_republican said...

So Brian...

You see the comments here about delegates...What say you? How close is Malloy to wrapping up the nomination? Do you have any idea how many delegates you have?

ctkeith said...

DR,

Both Dan and John know exactly what they have to do to secure themselves Line A but neither so far has shown the guts to do it.

Nominations from the floor might be a better option or even votimg present instead of for either of them for a good percentage of delegates.

Brian Durand said...

disgruntled,

I'm not out in the field, so I honestly can't tell you. I do think the momentum our campaign has shown over the last 2 months is pretty remarkable. I know I don't post much, but I do read what you guys have to say, and the fact is 3 or 4 months ago no one here thought Mayor Malloy had much of a chance at the convention. Now, every indication is that this is a horse race. Whatever happens at the convention, we're all extremely excited about the direction this campaign is headed in.

disgruntled_republican said...

Come on now,

You have to have some idea...don't you have meetings and discuss this stuff?

Keith-

I assume you are referring to backing Lamont over Lieberman. One would guess they backed him because they think he is the best man for the job. I know you don't. But once again, they are entitled to an opinion other than yours.

ctkeith said...

DG,

They don't have to go that far.They just have to show they hold all to the same standards.

Not alot to ask from someone who wants to be Governor of your state.

Ya think?

TrueBlueCT said...

For the record:
That was the 3rd New Haven training session for petition gatherers.

The first meeting was held a week before at WLH at Yale. There was an overflow crowd of 50+ people in attendance, and my first reaction was, Wow! Lieberman is in trouble.

So 75 grassroots volunteers through the door, in New Haven alone, is a good sign. A very good sign.

ctkeith said...

I assume the convention could end with no party endorsed nominee for governor and the positioning of the names on line B and C would be decided by a coin flip.

Wouldn't that be interesting?

MikeCT said...

Today's J-I documents de facto corporate contributions bundled to Joe Lieberman to reward him in his role in the:

Homeland Security & Govt Affairs committee
Executives at ChoicePoint Inc. - which bought the company whose list Florida officials used to prevent thousands from voting in the 2000 presidential election - were among the biggest contributors to U.S. Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman's re-election campaign from January to March, records show.

Senate's Armed Forces Committee
...General Dynamics Corp. and its Groton-based subsidiary, Electric Boat, and by Northrop Grumman, whose Norden Systems division is based in Groton. They show that 41 individuals who listed General Dynamics or Electric Boat as their employer gave the senator a total of $13,050, while 11 employed by Northrop Grumman gave a total of $3,500.

Environment and Public Works Committee
...officials and employees at Dominion Resources Inc., the Virginia-based gas and electric utility holding company that owns the Millstone nuclear station in Waterford, and from Berlin-based Northeast Utilities and its Connecticut Light & Power division.

Also...
Lieberman's previous campaign finance reports showed that he collected $10,000 in contributions from four top executives and the corporate PAC at Southwest Airlines three months after he sponsored a bill to lift restrictions on the Texas airport where the company is based.

Last summer, the senator also reported a bundle of $51,000 in contributions from dozens of officials at Tennessee-based Guardsmark LLC, one of the nation's largest private security firms. He had co-sponsored a bill requiring the FBI to help companies like Guardsmark two years earlier.


Ah, public service can be rewarding.