Tuesday, May 09, 2006

Argh

Blogger has been offline for most of the morning. Hopefully it's back now. Here's a poll to make up for it.

Do you want to see the Democratic Party retain control of both houses of the General Assembly?
Yes - they've done a great job!
I guess
No - let's give someone else a chance
No, but I don't want to see the Republicans in charge, either
Free polls from Pollhost.com

23 comments:

bluecoat said...

GC: too simple for me; I want the Governor and General Assembly, regardless of political stripes, to adress the issues and work toward real solutions and stop calling themselves the "first in the nation" when the last time CT was first was when the brokered the CT Compromise.

If you go back to the affordable housing post where I pointed out that Stamford's policies have hurt the transportation system and the afforadablity of housing, the minions don't deny that but they accuse me of not wanting to create jobs. People need to deal with the issues.

Genghis Conn said...

Just checking to see if comments work.

Genghis Conn said...

It seems they do.

Bluecoat,

And yet, as voters, that's the choice we get. One party or the other (or maybe a third party). I guess the question for you should be something like which party you think is going to do a better job at working towards those issues over the next two years.

Wrath of Conn said...

This is too funny.

I especially like the "Kids First" pic being half the size of the mayor's name.

bluecoat said...

GC: I look at the candidates one by one without regard to party affiliation and vot accordingly. I was looking today at the NY daily News or Post and saw the guy Mayor Bloomberg brought in to professionalize the city's economic develpoment operation was moving on after having completed hi mission. Like Bloomberg he got a salry of $1 dollar per year. As you know Bloomberg was a life long Democrat and only became a Republican because he didn't want to primary to get the job that pays him $1 dollar per year.

bluecoat said...

And GC: as I have thought outloud on this blog I once thought Malloy would be the least worst alternative for governor but as I have looked deeper, it will be between Rell and DeStefano for me; and if the Donkeys make it easy and put up Malloy then I will vote for Rell - or just skip that line.
JDS has some ideas but I'm not sure of his abilityto lead on the other hand Rell is a first class firefighter.

bluecoat said...

Wilms launches effort to unseat Duff for the Norwalk Senate seat and I'm not sure you are up on Tim White, who you link to the right, running for state rep either.

mod.dem.like.jfk said...

I just read a story on Myleftnutmeg a post by Branford Boy about Lamont delegates being disappointed in the Gov's race and considering other options, like staying home or withholding their vote.

That is the most insane thing I have ever heard. Why on earth would your town committee nominate you not to vote? I cannot imagine that there are more than 10 or 20 people who feel like Lamont is the only reason to go to the convention. How pompus can you be to think that there is a voting block there that will totally disrupt the election?!?!?! (plus both DM and JDS have said they are against the war, what more do you want!)

Time to put the kool aid down people- Destefano and Malloy have nothing to do with Lieberman and Lamont.

As I said before, Lamont seems like a nice guy, and with all the attention to the blogs in the "print media" its not long before someone writes a story about some of these comments (and dare I say people) being totally crazy.

Does anyone else think this blind hatred for Lieberman is getting kind of scary?

(btw- I mention it here in hopes of getting some rational comments on the subject).

bluecoat said...

I don't hate Joe and I doubt Branford Boy does either. I just think people are finally getting Joe's number. I have seen him as a political chameleon for years.

And i guess he doesn't really believe in the democratic process if he's playing the "pooor me" card.

ctblogger said...

Genghis,

Blogger is still acting funny. It takes forever for my blog to load.

I swear, Blogger can be so frustrating at times...

disgruntled_republican said...

JFK-

It is a shame. If you want to become a delegate to vote for your candidate that's great but you have to take part in the ENTIRE event or dont bother. The process exists for a reason.

bluecoat said...

DG: Branford Boy is nothing but a kid spreading a rumor. There's no basis for what he is saying and no basis for mdljfk to worry except he's always spinning these days

ctkeith said...

Bluecoat said

Branford Boy is nothing but a kid spreading a rumor. There's no basis for what he is saying and no basis for mdljfk to worry except he's always spinning these days

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Isn't that the attitude Lieberman Expressed just a few weeks ago on Sean Hannity's show when he mentioned Dumpjoe.com with a big laugh.
I believe that was the Last time Lieberman has been seen od heard with Hannity if I'm not mistaken.

ctkeith said...

By the way blucoat,

BranfordBoy is in his early 60s and a vietnam era veteran and a Yale Graduate so using the word kid to describe him is not only inacurate it might get you in a heap of S#&T with someone way out of your league.

Wrath of Conn said...

There was a thread on here yesterday about DeStefano unveiling his convention website. Someone made the point that it was similar to Malloy's. I had seen both after the password to Malloy's was posted here, and I agreed but didnt think much of it at first. After looking around more, it's not just laughable, it's actually rather egregious. The DeStefano campaign literally copy and pasted material from Malloy's site.

For just one of a few examples I found, check out the screen cap of Malloy's page here, then look at DeStefano's "new" page here.

Now, is this a big deal? Of course not. But it is dishonest, lazy and actually technically illegal. I did web design for a living for a few years, and the bottom line is that stealing someone else's content and work is just really lame.

Thomas Craven said...

^ Damn! That is BUSH LEAGUE

the JD campaign expects voters to trust them with the State when they cant come up with an original thought for thier own web site?

*shakes head*

bluecoat said...

Branford Boy is acting like a kid spreading hearsay. I am not a Joe supporter and won't vote for Joe. I'll beleive the delegates to the Dem's convention only care about the Senatorial race when I hear them say it. And my other point was that I din't think Branford Boy hated Joe as well. So pardon me for being rational - like the mainstream voters will be.

Tim White said...

Blue... yup. I'm running... 89th House District.

TrueBlueCT said...

MDLJFK-- No one hates Joe Lieberman's person. We do hate his harmful politics. They weaken our Democratic Party at a time when we need to be strong together.

In terms of the rumor of Lamont delegates voting "None of the Above", it just isn't going to happen. If Malloy and DeStefano were to both strong-arm their delegates into fallling in line behind Joe, it probably would. But my understading is that the opposite will happen, and Lamont will have strong showing in both cities, --in deference to the liberal, anti-elective war crowd that will dominate the voting in August's primary.

Is it childish to hold the Gubernatorial hopefuls to account? I really don't think so. What both Malloy and DeStefano have hopefully realized is that the goings on in D.C., and not Hartford, are the more powerful motivating force in getting voters to the poll this year. It is not just Iraq. How about Katrina? You want emotion, talk to people about what we all saw in New Orleans last September. Or bring up George Bush, Valerie Plame, and wiretapping. In contrast, property tax reform might be necessary, but it is also unappealling. The only CT issue to get people fired up about is our traffic woes. But that is a dangerous subject, as there are no quick fixes. In sum, most people just aren't passionate about the Governor's race, particularly with Rell's numbers so high.

Putting aside the emotion, the other dynamic at work here is that in endorsing Lieberman, --Malloy, DeStefano, and Farrell have all seemed to put connections above principle. On principle, there is no doubt that Joe should be opposed, (something about his 70% Republican approval ratings and staunch support for Bush's war). And yet these candidates tacitly support Lieberman, and endorse both lies, that this is about "just one issue", and that Joe is basically a "good Democrat".

So yeah, grassroots people may "childishly" balk if at the Convention a commitment to basic shared ideals, becomes lost in the midst of power politics. It's got to burn the insiders up that WE DON'T WANT ANYTHING. (EXCEPT A PARTY, AND LEADERSHIP, WE CAN BELIEVE IN!) Is that really childish?

ctkeith said...

Thats where you're wrong blue,

There are a good percentage of people who became delegates ONLY because of the Senatorial race.Many of them were town committee members for years and wouldn't have asked to be delegates this year except for Lamonts run.Many others are newer to the town committees but used the considerable political capitol they've earned through there larger than usual efforts in a short time to get themselves elected delegates and yet others are party stalwarts who have been disgusted with Lieberman for many years but are "good soldiers" a nd kept their feelings quiet.

Not using the issue that 56% of voters polled said is going to be the issue that determines their vote in the Gallop poll to protect one man,Lieberman, is not only stupid it proves the Ct Democratic Party is as Cravenly empty as many have been saying for years.

Either the CT, Democratic Party is bigger than any one man,even Joe Lieberman, or it's not and this cycle is going to prove if it is or it isn't.

mod.dem.like.jfk said...

Trueblue said "Is it childish to hold the Gubernatorial hopefuls to account? I really don't think so. What both Malloy and DeStefano have hopefully realized is that the goings on in D.C., and not Hartford, are the more powerful motivating force in getting voters to the poll this year. It is not just Iraq. How about Katrina? You want emotion, talk to people about what we all saw in New Orleans last September. Or bring up George Bush, Valerie Plame, and wiretapping. In contrast, property tax reform might be necessary, but it is also unappealling. The only CT issue to get people fired up about is our traffic woes. But that is a dangerous subject, as there are no quick fixes. In sum, most people just aren't passionate about the Governor's race, particularly with Rell's numbers so high."

Thats what I don't get, hold the gubenatorial candidates accountable for what, issues that they have no effect over? How can a governor run on what's going on in washington (besides an anti-gop sentiment). I just don't get the argument at all. Also, a state wide candidate talking about issues like property tax, are far more likely to get votes in a general than national issues. It might be more complicated to have to describe property tax reform, but I believe that voters are up to understanding that. Don't forget the power of the pocketbook vote.

CTkeith- sometimes I think you think faster than you type because it doesn't always make sense. That said, to your point I understand, If people were elected delegates only for their interest in the Senatorial race then fine and I have no doubt that there are many (one in our delegation). That said, they still have an obligation to their town committee, and thus to all of the Democrats in their town, to vote on the Governor's race. If they aren't up to that duty, then shame on their town committee for selecting them.

I have nothing wrong with a primary challenge to Lieberman, I do have a problem with that challenge spilling into negativity about other Democratic races, which seems to be a growing common trend. Democrats should primary, democrats should have an open conversation with voters about our differences, but it does not have to be hatefull. Nor should it result in other Democrats supporting either candidate being attacked by their own. Its hard to convince stay-at-home Mom's, Catholics, Regean Democrats and Unaffiliated voters to come back to the party when we are busy eating our own. How can we as a party say we will govern with civility, as Pelosi said on Meet the Press, when we can't even be civil to eachother?

mod.dem.like.jfk said...

ctkeith- you are right, the party is bigger than one man. Its also bigger than one issue.

TrueBlueCT said...

Cravenly empty.

I like that. It's the reason so many Kerry voters won't belong to the Party and put the "D" after their name. Of course the Party insiders like it that way....