Friday, June 16, 2006

McCain Leads Poll in 2008 CT Presidential Primary

Well we knew it wouldn't be Bill Frist topping the list, but the support among Independents reveals something about how Connecticut voters are far more conservative than liberal. 61% is strong support. See the detailed results by American Research Group, Inc. here. McCain won the CT 2000 presidential primary 48% to George Bush's 46%. What is interesting in that presidential primary is the total turnout for both parties, Dems 177,301, Republicans 178,985.

53 comments:

BRubenstein said...

GC.."i's" cant vote in a primary...its clear that McCain will be tough to beat in the general..if he makes it that far.

pequod1021 said...

Without Giuliani included this poll is absolutely useless. Connecticut would likely be one of Rudy's best states.

cgg said...

Except that most people don't see McCain as a conservative. Not yet anyway.

I don't think Giuliani would survive a primary in any state other than NY. The man has way to much baggage, and to date not all of it is public.

GMR said...

McCain has high name recognition, and that's really all this poll can possibly measure.

McCain will get the nomination only if a conservative doesn't emerge from the several conservatives, and the several conservatives split the vote. Mitt Romney and George Allen are definitely viable contenders.

CTOctaneBlue said...

McCain has REALLY been playing to the conservative base as of late. Every time I see him, it's like he's giving a speech at Bob Jones University. Stunts like that have really turned me off to McCain- it seems to me like he sold out to the jesus freaks. But I'm not totally convinced that the conservatives trust him either. It will probably be a repeat performance of 2000 for McCain- he'll win New Hampshire, before getting crushed by the "anointed" candidate on super tuesday. It's sad that national Republican candidates can't get anywhere if they don't play to the religious base, but that's the way it is these days.

Chris MC said...

We have a McCain slayer. His name is Mark Warner. Saw him on stage next to McCain at the World Economic Forum in Davos, and it was no contest. I do not fear John McCain in 2008. In fact, I hope he is the nominee. But I'll take Frist. Or George Allen. Or Rudy baby. Who else they got, Pataki? Newtie? Condi?

I think they are a pretty unimpressive group on the whole.

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Chris MC said...

Heh, good point Angelina. Impressive Republicans. I'd have to say Reagan, like him or not, was damned impressive.

Let's see now. Uh, nope, that's about it.

GWB is a singularly unimpressive individual, you've got me there. And he's proven that my, er, impression of him was exactly right. Regardless of the outcome in Iraq, unquestionably one of the worst executives in history. Far as I can tell, Cheney is running the show. And he really ought to be impeached.

Now that I think about it, I think that Arlen Spector is an impressive guy. Not a President, but I have been impressed with his career and some recent stands he's taken. The way he, tough as nails, hung in there even while he was undergoing chemo. Yup. Impressive man.

So there ya go.

BRubenstein said...

the conservatives wont support McCain if one of the real conservatives emerge as the alternative republican.. Hillary probably has a lock on the Dem nomination if she runs..( not that im a fan of hers)..there are about 10 other presidential hopefuls including Senator Russell Finegold,Warner,Biden,Bayh,Vilsak,Kerry,Edwards,Dodd, and Chris McCardle

Chris MC said...

Bruce, I am only running if I can get a hot-shot political operative that is as capable and qualified to run a political campaign as I am to run for President.

And you're just too busy with legal work these days.

BRubenstein said...

LMAOOOOOOO very funny Chris

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disgruntled_republican said...

I like McCain and did support him in 2000. However, I can't support him this time. It isn't that I am too conservative because I am not...fiscally yes but certainly not socially. Simply put, he is to wishy-washy. Other than campaign finance I can't think of anything he has taken a hard line on and as a President you can;t be all over the place. Clinton wasn't, Reagan wasn't. And while I was not fond of the Clinton presidency as a whole, I do envy him as a politician.

Gabe said...

Any discussion of impressive Republicans has to begin with Ike, no?

cgg said...

I think being a Senator makes it hard for you to run for president. There are to many votes and compromises that opponents can attack you on.

John Kerry never impressed me, and though I liked Edwards the Kerry-Edwards ticket never wowed me either. Hillary I can take or leave, and I wouldn't count on her having a lock for the nomination.

These days I'm not impressed by Republicans as a party. Their tactics over the last 12 years have been nothing short of shameful. I have worked with some Republican politicians that I liked very much personally, but that wouldn't matter in the voting booth.

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bluecoat said...

One of the more impressive Republicans was sometimes Litchfield County resident and formr CT guv, John Rowland, pure and simple...Johnny is doing just fine too as reported here in
Rowland Set To Go On Career As Speaker June 17, 2006
By JON LENDER And EDMUND H. MAHONY, Courant Staff Writers
and he may even go on to work in GWB's cabinet as he originally hoped for...strange but true???

BRubenstein said...

Bluecoat..the Republican corporate elite will "pay off" Johnnie boy now as a " motivational speaker" for past favor's done at $100,000 a speech...rest assured he will be a multi-millionaire before too long.

bluecoat said...

I thought the Tommasso bros. were Democrats...

BRubenstein said...

Bluecoat..dunno what they were..i do know most of the others..and they are Republicans....rest assurred that Johnnie boy was dealing and friendly with characters from both parties. Party registration means nothing in a culture of corruption.

bluecoat said...

I know; it's why I want to see Rell out because she hasn't really cleaned house and she hasn't set any new kind of course for the state - new passenger rail cars is boring - there is a great short editorial in tomorrow's CT section of the NYT about the need to reduce the reliance on the property tax to fund govt. in CT and JDS's early role in trying to move that forward - and Rowland's ignoring it...unfortunatley the issue cna't be reduced to a soundbite....

bluecoat said...

State To Aid Shelton Firm's Move June 15, 2006 By MAYA RAO, Courant Staff Writer to Monroe just a few miles away...this is the knid of mindless crap that has to stop...and only JDS seems to understand it...

GMR said...

I'm not sure what definition of "impressive" people are using, but I definitely think Mitt Romney, Governor of Massachusetts, is impressive.

He has an MBA and JD from Harvard, and got his JD "cum laude". He was one of the cofounders of Bain Capital, and before that was CEO of Bain Consulting, and really turned that company around.

Bain Capital has been one of the most successful venture capital firms in the country. It provided early financing for Staples, Dominos, Sealy, Sports Authority, Brookstone and countless other companies.

He became CEO of the Salt Lake City Olympic organization team after the bribery scandal, and turned that organization around. The SLC Olympics went from being a financial disaster to being quite profitable.

He then got elected as a Republican in what is probably the most Democrat-leaning state in the counry (although RI and VT certainly give MA a run for its money in that department). And since he's become governor, he's gotten a balanced budget passed, gotten a form of universal health insurance without raising taxes, and has had to work hard with overwhelming Democrat majorities in both state houses.

So I think I'm impressed with his track record so far.

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bluecoat said...

MA's healthcare plan, an initiative which Romney initiated at the behest of the CEO of Staples, did raise taxes because the Democrats in the legislature overrode his line item vetoes...and Weld, a Republican, was also a recent guv of MA, so....he'll be in the mix but he has the charisma of a goat...

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BRubenstein said...

angelina..im sure you are posting from spin notes...good girl...very impressive to say that all lefties are illogical...Einstein and Edison to name just 2 did way more for this country then you have or any of your conservative friends'

Then again you wouldnt understand since you paint everyone with the same brush without any thought behind it.

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Mr X said...

BR....Is at it again...I will be so glad when DeStefano/Slifka loses to Malloy/Glassman.

The great city of West Hartford will boohoo when Scotty loses and has a BIG L on his record.

Also Maybe it will take the wind out of your sails and people can come on here and have a discussion rather than listen to BR's Constant accusations all the time.

By the way I was with DeStefano But what he pulled on Litchfield County made me switch to Malloy If DeStefano was a man of his word Audrey Blondin would of been his running mate But since he lied for months about that What else has he lied or will lie about as Governor.

But West Hartford and their boy (Kevin Sullivan) and their Town Chair(Maureen Magnan)pushed Slifka right under the Bus.

If DeStefano somehow wins the Primary I will be voting for Jodi Rell.

Mr X said...

I agree with Pequod You need to include Rudy Giuliani in any poll around here.I don't think Bill Frist,George Allen or any of the Southern Talent in GOP will play too well here.

McCain leads the poll Because he has been here before as 2000 Presidential Candidate,he has campaigned on behalf of Candidates so he has name recognition in Connecticut.

Chris MC said...

Ah, I was ducking Romney. Except for the fact that he is a Mormon, I think he'd be a candidate for the short list next year.

When I say Reagan was impressive, I am talking about his impact and skill as a politician, not defending any much less all of what happened on his watch. Iran-Contra is an earlier chapter in the saga of which the current chapter is the debacle in Iraq. Beyond that, I've held forth plenty on the neo-con threat to western civilization that gained its foothold in Washington during the Reagan/Bush Administration (I'm talking Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, et al here, and not all of them are Republicans). But that is another thread, one we've been over before.

But, Angelina, if you are so inclined I'd be interested in your riff off my selection of Arlen Spector. Let's see how keen your sense is, and how open my mind is. Who do you suggest?

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Chris MC said...

Geez, Angelina, do you have to be so insulting on the first date? ;-)

Let's review:
Lincoln Chafee
- nobody's idea of anything.
Susan Collins
- who?
Olympia Snowe
- OK, she's OK, but I wouldn't say impressive.
Mike Bloomberg
- is a Democrat
Arnold Schwarzenneger
- a man I've admired for his all American success story since the seventies, but whose only qualification for public office is .... being Arnold.

You don't really put any of these people in Specter's class do you?

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Chris MC said...

C'mon Angelina, what Republicans would you put in Specter's class?

And what Democrats beyond Lieberman would you consider impressive?

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Chris MC said...

Those are some pretty good choices Angelina, but why not Mark Warner?

Would you be able to support any of those Democrats? How about Warner?

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Chris MC said...

Yes, how can I not give her her due? Thing is, I really want to like her, but I've never been able to. But she has really proven that her husband's deep professional respect for her is well deserved.

If she doesn't run for President, she will be a HUGE force in determining the course of the Party anyway. She has those massive funds, a secure position in New York, and the Clinton Presidency with all that brings in Democratic politics, plus the DLC network nationwide. And outside of her position on Iraq, she deserves the respect of most Party progressives.

She could and maybe should succeed Harry Reed as Majority Leader - especially if Mr. Reed becomes President of the Senate in January.

Chris MC said...

I also like the Governor of Michigan, Jennnifer Granholm, who is a very good argument for changing the requirement that a President be native born (she was born in Canada, as you no doubt know).

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BRubenstein said...

im not interested in republican lite demcratic candidates...mark me down for RUssell Finegold or the one candidate more into grass roots populism...

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Chris MC said...

Angelina -
You are entitled to your jingoistic appraisal, if you please. But come now, how much of Michigan's problems relate to the bludgeoning the auto industry and other manufacturing industries have taken?

Chris MC said...

Anyhow Angelina, I have to acknowledge your appraisals of Democrats, even while I question your selection of Republicans.

Where do you come down on Allen, Frist, Santorum, Hegel, and Kyl?

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Chris MC said...

Yep, that's my point. Granholm is hardly in a position to do anything about a structural problem in the auto industry that is sorting itself out to the statistical detriment of Michigan.

And the individuals I mentioned? You could add Senator Dole to that list, or anybody you'd like.

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