This is the beginning of the end for Ned Lamont Only 40 days to go I guess the rich boy will have to throw away more of his money and still lose in November.
turfgrrl said... The big question: is it going to be Rell-Lieberman-Shays or Rell-Lieberman-Farrell?
Considering we picked up around $675,000 this past Monday, most of which the RNC will now match for our Victory 06 efforts; and those (Victory 06) are the same fine folks that delivered Chaffee's 10 point win less than 20 days after polls put him 9 points behind......well you can probably figure it out.
those (Victory 06) are the same fine folks that delivered Chaffee's 10 point win less than 20 days after polls put him 9 points behind
Let's not get too crazy about the amazing come from behind win - given the inability to poll correrctly in a state that allows indys to vote in either primary, its much more likely that the poll cited was inaccurate than it is that Chafee made 19 point gains in less than three weeks...
Mr. Authentic Connecticut RINO (or Chafee backer),perhaps you'd explain why ct republican folks are willing to go to rhode island to help chafee, but not willing to go to shelton to help schlesinger?
Yet another institution reveals its electoral discrimination towards third parties.
According to the universe that Dr. Douglas Schwartz inhabits, Cliff Thornton doesn't deserve his name. By saying "someone else," Schwartz and his "scientific" polling create an immediate prejudice towards whoever else is running by not even giving those candidates the respect of their own selves.
At first, I thought polling was a potentially reformable situation. While I totally support exit polling as a means of verifying votes on election day (witness the Ukraine and Ohio), I think that the current bias towards the two party system, combined with the history of polls as a tool to manipulate public opinion (devised by the precursor to the CIA, the OSS), should raise question of whether or not our elections would be better off without polls.
I am trying to imagine a Lamont-Lieberman race where we didn't track numbers like it was a sports event, and instead focused on the ideas both men pepper us with. Or I am trying to think of how JDS would fare against MJR if we didn't know how many people blindly supported Rell.
Perhaps polls are good for finding out exactly how uninformed people in Connecticut are.
In Quinnipiac's poll, 33 percent of respondents said the economy is the most important factor in the gubernatorial election, yet under Rell/Rowland, Connecticut has lost jobs. To quote Cliff Thornton, if we Nutmeggers are lucky, by 2008, Connecticut will have the same number of jobs it had in 1988.
As I said last night, a more sane man might settle into despair after watching this election unfold, but I am unbounded by optimism for the human race, although sometimes I can't quite figure out why...
The reality of the situation is the Schlesinger's numbers are bound to go up through out the campaign, especially during the debates, every vote he gets is going to be pulled from Lieberman, so even if Alan gets about 12%-15% that is a huge hit to Joe. I think Alan will play the spoiler resulting in a Lamont victory and ya know what that is exactly what CT deserves; is this a prick rich kid senator that has no idea what he is doing and were all going to pay for it but we brough it on ourselves so be ready for at least 6 years of hell!
If Lieberman asked the Q-poll for a 15 point lead they would have given him that.
The Q had Lamont up in the primary by 13 one week out and then 6 points up 3 days out.A 7 point swing in 3 days. This proved to me and anyone else reading it they were fixing their numbers.
Do you believe there was a 7 point swing in 4 days and then another 2 point swing the next 3 all towards Lieberman?
The Q's polling throughout the Primary was a joke.They stuck their neck out 60 days out when Schwartz declared on TV that Lieberman couldn't be beat. From that day foward they gave Lieberman whatever number he asked for.
The Lesson,Never trust a poll whose roots are in the place it's polling.
I'm proud of the 37% of Democrats who are "sticking with Joe". It shows ideaology trumps party loyalty, and Lamont is too far left for many Dems. Another example of how Moveon.org and Daily Kos are primed to destroy the party by nominating candidates who are too far out of the mainstream.
From your lips to god's ears CTRevolution, but a 30 point (or 20 point or whatever) deficit is an awful lot to make up in six weeks with no money.
DeStefano's staff is thoroughly unmotivated, and if they're not persuaded, it's hard to get others excited either. Part of the problem is that universal healthcare hasn't -- for whatever reason -- resonated with voters this year. This is unfortunate, especially because it would have been a great-tie in with the federal races (c.f. Medicare Part-NancyJ Prescription Drug Coverage).
John DeStefano does not have a message, is not gaining any traction, and his campaign, other than this latest TV spot which is fairly lame, is virtually invisible.
He is overshadowed by all that is happening on the Congressional level, which will only intensify as we get closer to 11/7.
Put a fork in him, he's done. His time may be better spent at this point focusing on his next mayoral race -- as he's up again next fall.
DeStefano's vision vs. 4 more years of Republican Rell, it's time for people to wake up and to feel the winds of change. In 6 weeks we will be looking back amazed that Rell was ever up by this much and how fast she lost her support.
CBIA did NOT endorse JD as an organization, as they don't endorse candidates. You need to check your facts.
Trust me when I say that whatever JD has to throw at Rell pales in comparison to what she can use against him -- starting with the state of New Haven and working through all of the baggage of his past -- which far surpasses being linked to Rowland.
my god, an unreliable poll shows DeStefano headed for a loss as devastating as Julie Belaga's shellacking at the hands of Billy O'Neill and the netroots think it's good news.
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worse still, only 15 % of Lieberman supporters say they might change their mind. The mold is hardening it's the electorate is not shaped Ned's way
This is the beginning of the end for Ned Lamont Only 40 days to go I guess the rich boy will have to throw away more of his money and still lose in November.
Happy Days Are here Again!!!!!!
Go LIEBERMAN!!!!!!
If Alan gets less than 15%, I'll eat my hat. More than 20% voted for a child molester six years ago...
turfgrrl said...
The big question: is it going to be Rell-Lieberman-Shays or Rell-Lieberman-Farrell?
Considering we picked up around $675,000 this past Monday, most of which the RNC will now match for our Victory 06 efforts; and those (Victory 06) are the same fine folks that delivered Chaffee's 10 point win less than 20 days after polls put him 9 points behind......well you can probably figure it out.
Authentic Connecticut Republican said...
those (Victory 06) are the same fine folks that delivered Chaffee's 10 point win less than 20 days after polls put him 9 points behind
Let's not get too crazy about the amazing come from behind win - given the inability to poll correrctly in a state that allows indys to vote in either primary, its much more likely that the poll cited was inaccurate than it is that Chafee made 19 point gains in less than three weeks...
Mr. Authentic Connecticut RINO (or Chafee backer),perhaps you'd explain why ct republican folks are willing to go to rhode island to help chafee, but not willing to go to shelton to help schlesinger?
turfgrrl said...
In other parts of the country 4th CD Republicans are considered Democrats.
As if Chaffee's some sort of conservative?
It's methodology not ideology that wins elections.
Properly fielding a candidate isn't much different than bringing out a new brand of detergent or re-introducing an old favorite in a new package.
We're back at square one.
Where's the passionate Lamont team? With the Lieberman lead is a 10 point lead for Bush!
I'm so disheartened. All this work for nothing. Same old, same old. And democrats lose again!
Yet another institution reveals its electoral discrimination towards third parties.
According to the universe that Dr. Douglas Schwartz inhabits, Cliff Thornton doesn't deserve his name. By saying "someone else," Schwartz and his "scientific" polling create an immediate prejudice towards whoever else is running by not even giving those candidates the respect of their own selves.
At first, I thought polling was a potentially reformable situation. While I totally support exit polling as a means of verifying votes on election day (witness the Ukraine and Ohio), I think that the current bias towards the two party system, combined with the history of polls as a tool to manipulate public opinion (devised by the precursor to the CIA, the OSS), should raise question of whether or not our elections would be better off without polls.
I am trying to imagine a Lamont-Lieberman race where we didn't track numbers like it was a sports event, and instead focused on the ideas both men pepper us with. Or I am trying to think of how JDS would fare against MJR if we didn't know how many people blindly supported Rell.
Perhaps polls are good for finding out exactly how uninformed people in Connecticut are.
In Quinnipiac's poll, 33 percent of respondents said the economy is the most important factor in the gubernatorial election, yet under Rell/Rowland, Connecticut has lost jobs. To quote Cliff Thornton, if we Nutmeggers are lucky, by 2008, Connecticut will have the same number of jobs it had in 1988.
As I said last night, a more sane man might settle into despair after watching this election unfold, but I am unbounded by optimism for the human race, although sometimes I can't quite figure out why...
The reality of the situation is the Schlesinger's numbers are bound to go up through out the campaign, especially during the debates, every vote he gets is going to be pulled from Lieberman, so even if Alan gets about 12%-15% that is a huge hit to Joe. I think Alan will play the spoiler resulting in a Lamont victory and ya know what that is exactly what CT deserves; is this a prick rich kid senator that has no idea what he is doing and were all going to pay for it but we brough it on ourselves so be ready for at least 6 years of hell!
If Lieberman asked the Q-poll for a 15 point lead they would have given him that.
The Q had Lamont up in the primary by 13 one week out and then 6 points up 3 days out.A 7 point swing in 3 days. This proved to me and anyone else reading it they were fixing their numbers.
Anonymous,
I don't follow. Lamont won by 4%. I think that the Q-Poll pretty accurately gauged the trend.
Genghis
Do you believe there was a 7 point swing in 4 days and then another 2 point swing the next 3 all towards Lieberman?
The Q's polling throughout the Primary was a joke.They stuck their neck out 60 days out when Schwartz declared on TV that Lieberman couldn't be beat. From that day foward they gave Lieberman whatever number he asked for.
The Lesson,Never trust a poll whose roots are in the place it's polling.
I'm proud of the 37% of Democrats who are "sticking with Joe". It shows ideaology trumps party loyalty, and Lamont is too far left for many Dems. Another example of how Moveon.org and Daily Kos are primed to destroy the party by nominating candidates who are too far out of the mainstream.
Has anyone read the Questions in the Q-poll.Doug Schwartz is running a pushpoll for Lieberman not an unbiased poll.
From your lips to god's ears CTRevolution, but a 30 point (or 20 point or whatever) deficit is an awful lot to make up in six weeks with no money.
DeStefano's staff is thoroughly unmotivated, and if they're not persuaded, it's hard to get others excited either. Part of the problem is that universal healthcare hasn't -- for whatever reason -- resonated with voters this year. This is unfortunate, especially because it would have been a great-tie in with the federal races (c.f. Medicare Part-NancyJ Prescription Drug Coverage).
John DeStefano does not have a message, is not gaining any traction, and his campaign, other than this latest TV spot which is fairly lame, is virtually invisible.
He is overshadowed by all that is happening on the Congressional level, which will only intensify as we get closer to 11/7.
Put a fork in him, he's done. His time may be better spent at this point focusing on his next mayoral race -- as he's up again next fall.
DeStefano by 4, I'm calling it.
DeStefano's vision vs. 4 more years of Republican Rell, it's time for people to wake up and to feel the winds of change. In 6 weeks we will be looking back amazed that Rell was ever up by this much and how fast she lost her support.
Zogby's polling is virtually worthless.
CBIA did NOT endorse JD as an organization, as they don't endorse candidates. You need to check your facts.
Trust me when I say that whatever JD has to throw at Rell pales in comparison to what she can use against him -- starting with the state of New Haven and working through all of the baggage of his past -- which far surpasses being linked to Rowland.
Hopefully she has the guts to use it.
my god, an unreliable poll shows DeStefano headed for a loss as devastating as Julie Belaga's shellacking at the hands of Billy O'Neill and the netroots think it's good news.
The sky in my part of CT is blue
Only 39 days Left Liberals I bet you will be on the losing side on November 7th.
Election Night will be a combination wake/funeral for you Lamont Groupies So enjoy these last 5 weeks Because your choice is going to lose.
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