Sunday, December 18, 2005

Open Forum

Ask, and ye shall receive.

Just to get us all in the holiday spirit, here's the text of Patty Rowland's 'Night Before Christmas', as read to the Middlesex Chamber of Commerce two years ago Saturday. Read and cringe all over again! I wonder how sales of Marvelous Max the Mansion Mouse are doing...

Check out the new poll on the Moody scandal on the sidebar below the maps.

What's happening around the state?

39 comments:

ctblogger said...

Patti Rowland poem, classic!

Ebpie said...

What do ya'll think a good/bad first fundraising quarter for Rell would look like? 400k? 500k?

Anonymous said...

Did anyone else see the NY Times article today on the New Haven cop suit? How did DeStefano get the police endorsement for the mayors race when he is willing to sacrifice a good cop for political gain? Does that stuff really fly in New Haven?

Genghis Conn said...

Ebpie,

I'd be shocked if she managed 200k. She started late, and her fundraising rules do hamper her ability to raise money.

huskyfan1999 said...

How about drafting Ed Meyer to run against Lieberman in the primary? He beat Rowland's errand boy Aniskovich in 2004, and he seems like a solid reformer. Maybe he could clean up the Democrats too?

Thoughts?

Chris MC said...

How much can an individual give to a gubernatorial campaign? $2,500?
There are 100 people in this state who'll write her that check, easy.

If she doesn't hit $500M, she is in big trouble.

She might be inexperienced and inept, but her Chief of Staff knows how to play the game. What was her name again?

Ooops, wrong thread.

Chris MC said...

huskyfan1999:
Heh. Ed's a good guy, but he took Aniskovitch out after ctkeith primed the pump, and there was dirt on Aniskovitch beyond being Rowland's winger.

Ed's in no position to challenge Lieberman. Neither is Weicker.

But Gov. Weicker certainly has stepped over the line and committed to running in November, hasn't he? Too bad. I really didn't think he'd fall on his sword like that.

huskyfan1999 said...

It is too bad about Weicker. I doubt he can get the job done. What I really don't understand is why Bluementhal doesn't challenge. I suppose he's hoping Lieberman takes over at the Pentagon next year, clearing the field for him. Still, I'd like to see one of the Dems with a little more juice take Lieberman on. Meyer certainly seems to have a little more moxy than the average state legislator.

DeanFan84 said...

Hi All!

If Rell doesn't hit $1Million in this final quarter, she's in trouble.

The bar isn't 1/4 of a million. It isn't 1/2 a million. It isn't 3/4 of a million. It's a million $$$$, period.

The Democratic challengers have that much on hand, and more. If, Jodi Rell, --after ten plus years in the spotlight, and unprcedented favorability ratings to boot,-- can't raise at least that much money, it says a great deal about the shallowness of her support!

Republicans don't trust her, and Democrats see through her... Good luck conning CT's independent voters!

DeanFan84 said...

Don't dismiss Ed Meyer out of hand. He has that something that most elected D's and R's do not-- Credibility!

Ed took down a top-ranking Republican. ANd his coat-tails resulted in a 2005 Branford Democratic sweep. CT voters aren't stupid. They still have the ability to pick out the "honest man" amidst the charlatans. A Meyer primary is the last thing in the world that Revoltin' Joe Lieberman wants...

Like Lowell Weicker, Ed Meyer understands that Bush & Co. must be stopped. Sincerity and Independence can't be faked. God Bless America, and please save us from the current GOP!

Anonymous said...

This the Ed Meyer who was a right wing NYS legislator in the 1980's?

The fact Aniskovich ran an inept campaign is overlooked by everyone on the Left

Anon and on said...

Ed Meyer?!? Okay gang... that's enough Egg Nogg for this season...

Independent1 said...

On Rell's fundraising number, I think she'll need to hit $450-$500k. This would put her above anyone else's best quarter, and she can trumpet doing it without lobbyists/ad books/contractor money. Given that she started late, and basically lost Thanksgiving week, this week and next due to holidays, that should be a pretty good number. (When you back out the lobbyist/ad book/contractor numbers from DeStefano and Molloy, the multiple would look even better.)

Gene Parmesean said...

I don't think there is any threshold that Rell needs to meet in order to be considered successful. She's not taking any of that drity, filty, corrupting lobbyist/contractor/adbook money that both DeStefano and Malloy have chosen to take.

If that kind of money is so corrupting, why don't DeStefano and Malloy return it? I won't be holding my breath.

KerryGuy said...

The Governor needs to raise at least $1 million. And she probably has a pretty good shot at reaching that goal for the quarter. She will get all the big Republican donors right away, but now is when the going will get tougher. The people that are going to max out are being asked to do it early. When this easy money comes in, she will be hard pressed to raise money five and ten dollars at a time.

So this quarter will be her best, and it needs to be a big one. But since she will be competing directly with the state GOP for those donations, she seized the field by installing George Gallo as state chair - the same Gallo under whose watch Rowland pilfered over $300k in party funds.

And yes, Ed Meyer is the former NY state pol, whose votes there screwing CT residents will come back to haunt him if he ever ran for something bigger here.

Ebpie said...

I'm sure some of you will like this: Connecticut Senate: Weicker Challenge for Lieberman

Genghis Conn said...

That is interesting. Might be worth its own post later today. Thanks, Ebpie.

Chris MC said...

Heh. Hence Gallo's statement that a Weicker entry would prompt interest from Republicans in getting into the race.

Hoo boy. Imagine a Weicker 33, Lieberman 32, [Unnamed R] 34 outcome? Lefties would have to do a Jonestown.

Genghis Conn said...

That result is not at all out of the question. Republicans have been getting about 30-35% of the vote every time Lieberman is up for re-election.

Chris MC said...

you mean lefties doin' a Jonestown?

;-)

Chris MC said...

Huskyfan 1999: Blumenthal shares Joe's geographic base, they are close politically, and to challenge a sitting Senator from your own party, you need more than ambition to justify it. Plus, as Blumenthal has made clear, he's perfectly happy being AG and raising his family.

Anonymous said...

Chris McCard.....please dont tell us about credibilty that REll would have...you have no experience in bigtime politcs and long ago lost YOUR credibility on the Dean campaign

Aldon Hynes said...

Chris McC raises the concern, "Weicker 33, Lieberman 32, [Unnamed R] 34 outcome? "

I am guessing that Chris is thinking that Weicker would be running as an independent and Lieberman would be running as a Democrat.

Most of the people I know who are encouraging Weicker to run are encouraging him to run as a Democrat. I know that Colin has said this isn't likely, but it is really Weicker's best chance.

Of course my dump joe friends might question whether Joe would run as a Democrat.

Aldon Hynes said...

In other news, I received the following release from James Howell, Executive Director of AFSCME, Council 15:

(Full Disclosure: AFSCME Council 15 has endorsed Mayor DeStefano)


For More Information: James Howell, Executive Director, Council 15

For Immediate Release: December 15 2005


Hartford— AFSCME, Council 15 Executive Director James Howell questioned Governor’s Rell’s ability to lead Connecticut forward when it comes to crime, citing her meeting about youth violence that excluded the mayors or police chiefs of any major Connecticut cities as evidence that she doesn’t understand the dynamics of change when it comes to public safety.

“Making our cities and towns safer is going require a dramatic collaboration. Does Governor Rell really think she can solve crime problems at a meeting in the Governor’s Mansion with three people who don’t know the first thing about youth or violence? That is laughable.” Howell, whose union represents 3,500 police officers statewide, said. “We need the mayors at the table. We need the educators at the table. We need the cops at the table. And you know what? We need some dollars on the table. There are significantly fewer cops on the streets of our cities than just four years ago.”

Chris MC said...

Aldon -

Weicker himself has said he'd only run as an independent. He has no interest in becoming a D. And he's ruled out the R nomination. I think it was in the NYT piece last week.

I'll venture that Lieberman doesn't switch parties. Think that's a safe bet?

Anonymous said...

Huskyfan1999

Dick doesnt like running a hard race thats why he isnt running for Senator. And if Joe winds up at the Pentagon the governor appoints the replacement. If Dick was going to e appointed he had better hope the Governor is a Dem mwhich at this point doesnt look all that likely...sorry guys but I am a realist.

Chris MC said...

kerryguy said:
"But since she will be competing directly with the state GOP for those donations, she seized the field by installing George Gallo as state chair - the same Gallo under whose watch Rowland pilfered over $300k in party funds.

Competing with? What is to prevent big donors from giving to the campaign and to the state party?

disgruntled republican said...

Chris McC is exactly right and if they give the max by next Saturday they can do it again the Saturday after that....new year means the donation slate is wiped clean!

She will have plenty of cash on hand.

Chris MC said...

hf99:
Blumenthal shares Lieberman's geographic base and they are close politically...

And you need a much better reason to take on a sitting Senator from your own party than personal ambition.

And as has been pointed out, despite what keith and df84 & company imply, Lieberman's record overall is one of a moderate. This is primarily about Iraq, and more broadly about the appearance at least of Joe's support of the neo-cons and their President.

Even Weicker, at least so far, has emphasized that his candidacy (should it materialize) is about challenging the propagandization of American foreign policy, specifically the invasion of Iraq.

So anybody running against Lieberman would be tossing whatever s/he's about politically to be the "anti-Iraq" candidate. It's a pretty thin platform.

Anonymous said...

Rell could NOT recieve an additional contribution from the same person.

The slate is wiped clean after the primary, not after the new year...otherwise DeStefano & Malloy would have an even larger advantage.

But good research Disgruntled, I applaud the effort

KerryGuy said...

The $2500 max an individual may give to a gubernatorial candidate is per election, not per calendar year. So those maxing out now are done (absent a primary challenge). As for what is stopping individual; donors from giving to both the party and Rell, it is Rell's promise to not accept money from the party. The party is free to accept the "tainted" cash from lobbyists. contractors and PACs. Rell has pledged not to, thus leaving her with only the pool of large individual Republican contributors. She needs to max all of them out, and if it comes down to giving to her or giving to the party, she needs to ascertain that she is getting the cash. And if such donors, rather than giving the max to each, can instead have their spouse, family member, or friend put their name on an additional max donation top the Governor, her candidacy is better served.

Chris MC said...

kerryguy -

OK, I guess I am assuming we're talking about that category of donor for whom five or ten grand isn't a big deal, and there are easily 100 of those Rell can reach by phone between now and Friday if she even has to call them herself. Which she doesn't, since her influence peddler in chief is on leave and can devote herself full time to raking in the dough.

Rell's pledge, as DeStefano and Malloy have both said, is baloney. She can't take the cash from the party if she sticks to her pledge, but she was very careful to protect the in kind donations like polling and everything else that her R leadership Hamzy and Ward went ballistic about during the floor debate over the CFR legislation.

So assuming she gets the $500M in her bank account by the end of the quarter, and Gallo gets another $500M in the RSCC coffers, they start out the year just fine.

If not, one has to wonder just how weak the Connecticut Republicans' franchise has become thanks to the Rowland legacy. Their Prescott Bush fundraiser was underattended this year, right?

KerryGuy said...

The GOP franchise is in trouble, so Rell needs to distance herself from it. The party will be in trouble, which is one of the reasons Hamzy jumped ship. Rell knows it and is going to exploit it to her own end, which is to run without the party assistance. They will, I'm sure, do some in-kind stuff for her, but she really has gone out on a limb about not taking the dirty money.

To make her more independent of party money, she really needs to raise enough to go it alone on the campaign. Those big BIG donors (the few who can max out and then some) may be urged to provide funds to other private donors (friends and family) in order to put another name on another max contribution. This might (and probably will) result in those funds going to the party. This will further kill off the underticket and the GA races, as the party will now be rendered impotent.

Chris MC said...

I followed you until the part about it killing off the underticket - you mean there would be no money, or what?

If the party is pulling in dough and not spending on Rell, where else would it go?

Anonymous said...

Got my Xmas card from the Governor today. I found it odd that the postmark was from Akron, OH.

Outsourced out of State?

KerryGuy said...

Chris MC said...
I followed you until the part about it killing off the underticket - you mean there would be no money, or what?

Bingo - Donations will be way down. The only source left for the party will be lobbyists, and they are supposedly ticked about campaign finance reform and are boycotting fundraisers.

Mrs. Clean wil be sucking up individual donor money like a Hoover, and there will be few crumbs left over for the legislative and lesser state-wide candidates.

This tieing of the hands in fundraising strategy may have worse long-term ramifications for the GOP than the Rowland scandal.

MikeCT said...

Seeking to shift public attention from internal ethics problems, Gov Rell has adopted a new image and has begun a concert tour. (Tour photo courtesy of the Hartford AdvocateM.)

Gabe said...

KerryGuy -

And yes, Ed Meyer is the former NY state pol, whose votes there screwing CT residents will come back to haunt him if he ever ran for something bigger here

What votes?

publius1220 said...

Re: Ed Meyer for US Senate?

There has been some mention here on this blog about the prospect of State Sen. Ed Meyer (D-12) running against incumbent Senator Joe Lieberman (D-CT) next year in a primary. Huskyfan1999 first mentioned this a while back and received some harsh responses about the voting record of Sen. Meyer while he was a member of the New York Assembly in the 1970s, not, as an anonymous blogger pointed out, during the 80s.

The reason Ed Meyer, or any other liberal Democrat, has a chance against a hawk like Lieberman is because of his conservative, independent voting base. A Quinnipiac University poll published in April revealed that Lieberman has a 72% Republican approval rating, a whole 6 points higher than his Democratic approval rating of 66%. Although this is not totally shocking news, it is signifigant in explaining how Lieberman can be defeated from the left, not the center. Lowell Weicker, a former Republican turned Independent whom Lieberman defeated for this seat in 1988, has been the most frequent talked about candidate to challenge Lieberman. However, Weicker refuses to declare himself anything besides an Independent. In this scenario, Weicker would face off against Lieberman in the general election in which it is proven that Republicans and Independents flock towards Lieberman. In a Democratic Primary in which most voters represent the most liberal and dedicated members of the party.

With this said, if a primary challenger attacked Lieberman from the left, Lieberman would be forced to encourage a large turnout. However, in a primary, his biggest base (conservative Democrats, liberal Republicans, and Independents) would be ineligible to vote. This is the advantage Meyer, or another Democrat, would have over Weicker. And, as we all, Lowell Weicker understands this which is why he will only enter the race if no one credible from either party steps up to the plate.

Ed Meyer is the kind of progressive Connecticut needs and deserves. As mentioned on the blog, he defeated Bill Aniskovich, one of the most corrupt state figures in recent history besides his beloved friend, and our now imprisoned former Governor John Rowland. Meyer's short time in the state senate has already proved to be well regarded among many of the states' true Democrats during the last historic session in the Connecticut General Assembly.

Joe Lieberman is quite vulnerable. Let me also remind fellow bloggers that those poll numbers are from April, a time in which the President's poll numbers (who's often mimic those of Lieberman's) had still not fallen due to the decreasing support of the war in Iraq, the federal government's failure in response to Hurricane Katrina, and his failure to alter Social Security. Lieberman, as we all have seen from the infamous "kiss" during the State of the Union speech, is close to George W. Bush. As most members of his own party face tough elections in their districts, they try to distance themselves from his disasterous leadership. Lieberman, however, feels comfortable embracing him and his policies (literally!)

As we begin the New Year, those of us committed to electing a progressive US Senator in the State of Connecticut. Whether we look to Ed Meyer (who is an excellent choice) or to another who has yet to surface, we must accept that the only conceivable way Lieberman is beatable is in a Democratic Primary in which his base is excluded and in which our base is in force. Lieberman can be beaten and will be beaten - all it will take is for someone to step up to the plate and go to bat with his record. Meyer, as those of us saw in 2004, feels more than comfortable taking on someone who seemed un-hittable and slamming their record over the fence and into the on looking public.