tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10214263.post116525101386057923..comments2023-10-18T11:04:13.946-04:00Comments on Connecticut Local Politics: Waterbury Rumors: Jarjura May Not RunGenghis Connhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13042849182723767087noreply@blogger.comBlogger34125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10214263.post-1165445265039902062006-12-06T17:47:00.000-05:002006-12-06T17:47:00.000-05:00Vance has one major thing over Selim Noujaim and T...Vance has one major thing over Selim Noujaim and Tony D'Amelio. He can speak.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10214263.post-1165440074450832602006-12-06T16:21:00.000-05:002006-12-06T16:21:00.000-05:00Anon 1:04The caucus would have been dismantled if ...Anon 1:04<BR/><BR/>The caucus would have been dismantled if they publicly admitted that Zoni was going to loose. I'm sure that they all regret that mailer, but Zoni lost by 3k votes; far more than 1 mailer would account for.<BR/><BR/>Sam did admit to having a "personal" relationship with the women from the Ethics Commission. In fact, I believe he was quoted in the Hartford Courant as saying, "In hindsight, I can see the problem that would create," referring to their respective positions and responsibilities in state government.<BR/><BR/>Who is this "guy" that you refer to in your comments?<BR/><BR/>And hell, your guy won - the ultimate in politics, and life for that matter - no need to be overly defensive about how he won.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10214263.post-1165428244391081122006-12-06T13:04:00.000-05:002006-12-06T13:04:00.000-05:00Let's be clear- the Senate Democrats were telling ...Let's be clear- the Senate Democrats were telling anyone that would listen that Zoni was going to beat Calgiuri. Rowland this, Giordano that, concert tickets, ethics, some affair that never happened. You name and they were saying it and they know exactly who they are that was saying it. It was the same guy that put together the nasty mailer. So now everyone wants to rewrite history because it didn't work out for them, but those are the facts and they are indisputable.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10214263.post-1165361495263756952006-12-05T18:31:00.000-05:002006-12-05T18:31:00.000-05:00Come on BrassBoy, we all have our loyalties but le...Come on BrassBoy, we all have our loyalties but lets talk turkey here. Zoni got a late start, had no overwelming support in Wolcott or Wtby (you know as well as i do, as honored as we are to have these firemen helping out on election day, few live in the district) and he still came very very close. I didnt say anyone woulda beat Sam, I said Mazurek woulda. If Corky had been the candidate from the get, it woulda been a different ball game.<BR/><BR/>PS on a side note, we both know that any anti-republican or any other kind of national sentiment never carries over to local elections around here.wtbywonderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09877451212931752660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10214263.post-1165356079354869452006-12-05T17:01:00.000-05:002006-12-05T17:01:00.000-05:00BrassBoy:I completely agree with you. But it's cl...BrassBoy:<BR/><BR/>I completely agree with you. But it's clear that in Waterbury, presenting as a "good, clean-cut" politician goes a long way.<BR/><BR/>I don't know if I agree with you that Sam would have gotten beat by "anyone else". Sam ran a great campaign. He had a ton of money, established himself long before his opponent even figured out who he was (which was something Zoni's campaign obviously struggled with throughout, though they did a good job considering it was just a kid running his campaign), and did a textbook job turning the attention of the mailer from the substance to the picture. The margin itself demonstrates that Sam campaigned well and will be difficult to beat in the future. Knowing your interest in Waterbury politics, any ideas who may venture to run against Caligiuri in '08?<BR/><BR/>Overall, I think Waterbury is in good hands. Surely they have problems, but they have (all relative, mind you) idealistic, talented and qualified people (from both sides of the isle) to deal with them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10214263.post-1165353908337745952006-12-05T16:25:00.000-05:002006-12-05T16:25:00.000-05:00Ask anyone in Hartford (lobbyists and caucus staff...Ask anyone in Hartford (lobbyists and caucus staffs) and they will tell you that Zoni (negative campaign or not) came a lot closer than anyone anticipated. No way Zoni was gonna win that race with 130k.<BR/><BR/>As an aside, anyone think it was the Caligiuri/Zoni race that led to Williams' advancement of the "clean campaigning" proposal? Think maybe he was a little pissed at his brain trust for approving that piece?<BR/><BR/>The "clean, good-guy" image in Waterbury works. Who can blame them, they've seen their share of pain and suffering due to narcissistic and power-driven politicians.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10214263.post-1165353421177180672006-12-05T16:17:00.000-05:002006-12-05T16:17:00.000-05:00Caligiuri had several things going for him Noujaim...Caligiuri had several things going for him Noujaim doesnt. He was for some strange reason anointed a saint in Wtby after the Giordano scandal, he ran in strong Republican leaning Wolcott, and ran against a guy who was a low vote getter in his own town as a council candidate. Not to mention his opponent ran a negative campaign that turned many would be supporters off. Fact of the matter is, if Southington wasnt power hungry and Mazurek was the candidate, Corky woulda beat him all day long. <BR/><BR/>Anyone Noujaim runs against for mayor will not be a Dave Zoni, remember that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10214263.post-1165352855967052782006-12-05T16:07:00.000-05:002006-12-05T16:07:00.000-05:00that and following a monster into office.that and following a monster into office.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10214263.post-1165352709429935032006-12-05T16:05:00.000-05:002006-12-05T16:05:00.000-05:00Worked for Caligiuri.Worked for Caligiuri.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10214263.post-1165352532289148392006-12-05T16:02:00.000-05:002006-12-05T16:02:00.000-05:00I am a proud member of the Paul Vance "committee o...I am a proud member of the Paul Vance "committee of willing peons ready to overtake the city and spread the gospel", thats actually the name of our PAC. <BR/><BR/>People out there should be thankful that theres guys like JPV that take time away from their job, family and friends to take part in the thankless business of wtby politics (or politics in general). If he announced today id be his first contributor and the first one to sign a volunteer sheet, and id have a line of hundreds behind me. In a primary JPV wins, hands down. <BR/><BR/>On the republican side, Noujaim might own his district, but outside of that his aw shucks nice guy schtick aint gonna go to far, JPV wins, hands down.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10214263.post-1165351696689420812006-12-05T15:48:00.000-05:002006-12-05T15:48:00.000-05:00Sure, politics is a never-ending cycle. The same ...Sure, politics is a never-ending cycle. The same can be said about the challenges that Waterbury faces (or our state or our country). So be it as a poltician, basketball coach or volunteer- I will be involved.Paul Vancehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08178541929064418149noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10214263.post-1165351503884044342006-12-05T15:45:00.000-05:002006-12-05T15:45:00.000-05:00Anon-- No, I have not ever been invited to Chris M...Anon-- No, I have not ever been invited to Chris Murphy's house for dinner and we do not exchange Christmas gifts. We are two politicians in the same party. Am I missing something?<BR/><BR/><BR/>Thanks for the good wishes in 2007.Paul Vancehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08178541929064418149noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10214263.post-1165350703271403902006-12-05T15:31:00.000-05:002006-12-05T15:31:00.000-05:00To steal verbiage, Mr. Vance, your comments are "s...To steal verbiage, Mr. Vance, your comments are "suspiciously" akin to what a candidate would say.<BR/><BR/>Politics is a 24-7, 365 proposition. Election cycles are ubiquitous and never-ending. Anyone who says otherwise must be a candidate, in one capacity or another.<BR/><BR/>Best of luck in 2007, JPV.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10214263.post-1165350641467444542006-12-05T15:30:00.000-05:002006-12-05T15:30:00.000-05:00doing a mailer does not constitute friendship... n...doing a mailer does not constitute friendship... nore like political expedience...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10214263.post-1165349735031337952006-12-05T15:15:00.000-05:002006-12-05T15:15:00.000-05:00Have I ever considered running for other offices? ...Have I ever considered running for other offices? Sure I have, politics is in my blood- and I love Waterbury-- so naturally I look for ways to improve the place where I live.<BR/><BR/>Since I put my 'toe in the water' so to speak in the 5th Congressional Race, I would say that I will not publically 'explore' another race- but will be more inclined to dive into something.<BR/><BR/>I am not trying to be coy, but I don't make my decisions based on a newspaper deadline. To steal a line from Obama-- I talk to two higher powers- God and my wife, and then I make a decision. I don't know about 2007 yet, I am just trying to get my Christmas shopping done at this point!Paul Vancehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08178541929064418149noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10214263.post-1165349058924661772006-12-05T15:04:00.000-05:002006-12-05T15:04:00.000-05:00This is great. Kudos to you, Paul, for engaging i...This is great. Kudos to you, Paul, for engaging in such dialogue.<BR/><BR/>Have you considered running for State Rep. or possibly attempting to primary Sen. Hartley? <BR/><BR/>All would be great races to watch.<BR/><BR/>And, by your last comment, are you insinuating that you are considering a primary race with Jarjura?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10214263.post-1165348719674631562006-12-05T14:58:00.000-05:002006-12-05T14:58:00.000-05:00I don't believe everything I read in the paper.I don't believe everything I read in the paper.Paul Vancehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08178541929064418149noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10214263.post-1165348551863540502006-12-05T14:55:00.000-05:002006-12-05T14:55:00.000-05:00Wait, scratch that...you said in the Waterbury Rep...Wait, scratch that...you said in the Waterbury Republican American that you would not.<BR/><BR/>Guess I was just trying to cause trouble. Would have made for a great primary though.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10214263.post-1165348322853472982006-12-05T14:52:00.000-05:002006-12-05T14:52:00.000-05:00Mr. Vance:So, will you primary Jarjura if, in fact...Mr. Vance:<BR/><BR/>So, will you primary Jarjura if, in fact, he runs for a 4th term?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10214263.post-1165346792395630612006-12-05T14:26:00.000-05:002006-12-05T14:26:00.000-05:00Hi Gabe--We have no where to go but up, my girls t...Hi Gabe--<BR/><BR/>We have no where to go but up, my girls team (Crosby) was 0-20 last year. First game this Friday, on WATR radio (www.watr.com)7pm.<BR/><BR/>As for my beloved Villanova Wildcats, they look ok.<BR/><BR/>JPVPaul Vancehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08178541929064418149noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10214263.post-1165346448628602682006-12-05T14:20:00.000-05:002006-12-05T14:20:00.000-05:00More importantly - Whats the outlook for the baske...More importantly - Whats the outlook for the basketball team this year?Gabehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14313270027747810794noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10214263.post-1165346330881836732006-12-05T14:18:00.000-05:002006-12-05T14:18:00.000-05:00So what rumor should I comment on? Chris Murphy is...So what rumor should I comment on? <BR/><BR/>Chris Murphy is my sworn enemy? I guess I should have not done that mailer for him. <BR/><BR/>And to the Anonymous that says to keep a 'suspicious eye' on me, I think we should keep an eye on all of our elected officials-- our recent history should teach us at least that much.<BR/><BR/>Have I spoken to Mayor Jarjura about my interest in running for Mayor? Yes I have, and of course I am interested in public service and in other leadership opportunities- including the possibility of seeking elected office. I told the Waterbury paper as much.<BR/><BR/>Selim Noujaim is a good guy, someone that I have know since I was a kid and he would be a formidable candidate.<BR/><BR/>I don't honestly know who will run for mayor next year, but I am flattered to be 'on the short list' in discussions.<BR/><BR/>As for having a "committee of willing peons ready to overtake the city and spread the gospel"--- I leave spreading the gospel to those who are more capable and I am certain that my family and friends might balk at being called "peons".Paul Vancehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08178541929064418149noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10214263.post-1165339556819730242006-12-05T12:25:00.000-05:002006-12-05T12:25:00.000-05:00yeah, honestly, who's floating THAT notion around?...yeah, honestly, who's floating THAT notion around?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10214263.post-1165337520496747622006-12-05T11:52:00.000-05:002006-12-05T11:52:00.000-05:00Since when does a radio station issue endorsements...Since when does a radio station issue endorsements?<BR/><BR/>Vance does not like Chris Murphy and never did...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10214263.post-1165332302850593152006-12-05T10:25:00.000-05:002006-12-05T10:25:00.000-05:00Selim is very well liked, especially in his own mi...Selim is very well liked, especially in his own mind. He was once spreading rumors that Governor Rell asked him to run for Lt. Gov.<BR/><BR/>I could understand why the GOP would case a suspicious eye towards Vance. He is always the high vote getter in Waterbury in primary and general elections. He was endorsed by WATR and Waterbury Republican American. Best of all, as a loyal democrat he campaigned for Chris Murphy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com