Saturday, January 06, 2007

Commentary

On Thursday I crashed a party and had the experience of being physically blocked from a politician by a quick footed aid. I thought the incident was really funny, and I knew that a few blogs would link to Gabe's account of the incident, but the speed and distance at which the story spread surprised me. By now I'm so used to Joe Lieberman's open contempt for those who disagree with him that it's what I've come to expect. The biggest surprise for me, was that the people at the door didn't have the standard enemies list in hand.

Looking at the story through the filter of Ken Krayeske's arrest I have a better understanding of why our experience caught so many people's attention. Elected officials are voted in to represent us, even those of us who don't agree with them politically. The lengths which Joe Lieberman went through to avoid an encounter with bloggers was comical. The lengths which Governor Rell, or at the very least people acting on her behalf, went to avoid an encounter with one of her political opponents is frightening.

Many of you probably know Ken Krayeske from his comments on CTLP. He frequently contributed to threads, especially those pertaining to the Governor's race where he served as Cliff Thorton's campaign manager. I've never met Ken, but I am fairly familiar with his political views and affiliations. There is no reason for him to be on a watch list. The idea that he would attempt to harm Jodi Rell or anyone else is just crazy.

The most disturbing aspect of the story is that Krayeske was held on a $75,000 bail until Rell's ball was over, and then released with a promise to appear. Was there a concern that he might attempt to crash? And then do what exactly? The Courant article does mention a comment Krayeske made on CTLP about the ball, but he certainly didn't make any threats here or anywhere else that I can tell. That our tax dollars would be spent on keeping Ken Krayeske in jail for the duration of a party is also crazy.

Both Joe Lieberman and Jodi Rell have built their political brand on the idea of working across the aisle with those who don't necessarily share their views. This week we saw two more examples to counter that popular image. Lieberman's behavior was smooth but comical. In the end his actions didn't cause anyone harm, and we got a great post out of it. The same cannot be said about the arrest of Ken Krayeske.

Sources
Paziniokas, Mark. "State Called Man `Threat'". Hartford Courant. 1/06/07

Boy, Spaze. "Rell's World". Spazeboy. 1/06/07

39 comments:

ctkeith said...

Less than a yr ago Joe Lieberman mentioned my little Website DUMPJOE.COM on the HANNITY and colmes show on fox news with a big laugh.

It's fun seeing the fear in his eyes now every time he sees my fat little face.

Jodi Rell and Joe Lieberman have plenty to fear from bloggers. The only weapon we carry is the truth and the balls to ask them why they ignore it.

Thats what scares the living shit out of them.

We almost lost this country after 9/11 and I thank God every day for the few who saw through their fear and wouldn't just "trust the adults" in the Whitehouse.

Matt said...

It would be nice if there were conservative leaders who would do the right thing instead of just trying to see how much they can get away with.

Thank you, Joe and Jodi, for showing that those still don't exist.

lamontcranston said...

Neither Lieberman or Rell are conservatives

Matt said...

LC - Be nice or Rell will sign gay marriage into law just to spite you.

Authentic Connecticut Republican said...

>> There is no reason for him to be on a watch list. The idea that he would attempt to harm Jodi Rell or anyone else is just crazy.

Sorry - I'm buying it.

If I were Lou Rell, I'd be very concerned if that guy got close to my wife.

It's pretty obvious Ken's remarks here and elsewhere strike those in various police and security fields the same way.

Anonymous said...

Obviously the police think Ken is a threat-- he has made aggressive comments in the past, and continues to harass the Governor.

I'm all for free speech. I'm not for aggressive harassment. Ken obviously is in the latter.

Anonymous said...

As I read it, Ken wasn't just a bystander wanting a pic - Rell partakes in those all the time. In fact, she is very approachable 'on the street.'

Sounds like he was riding his nike fast, dumped it on the sidewalked and sprinted towards the Governor. He was begging to be stopped.

Methinks Ken wanted this reaction to take place....

Hartford cops, state police were just doingtheir job.. hasnoghing to do with Rell.

Anonymous said...

CGG, better stop posting, you might be next on the list.

Fuzzy Turtle said...

I'm all for free speech. I'm not for aggressive harassment. Ken obviously is in the latter. I am too.. but there are better ways of handling overzealous photographers than arresting them under such a cloud. IF this is the case.. it was handled VERY poorly. And if there WAS some sort of threat made, the agency that provided the police info would have been crowing about it from the rooftops in press releases.

Instead, silence.

You can't just arrest people for no reason, or at least you shouldnt. He wasnt DETAINED, he was ARRESTED. Big diff.

Shadow said...

> ACR: If I were Lou Rell, I'd be very concerned if that guy got close to my wife.

What?! A harmless guy got arrested for no reason, at least try to keep the propoganda consistent. Either you believe people like Ken are hippy peacenicks, or you believe they're so physically threatening that big tough Republicans are afraid for their the safety of their wives.

The truly sad thing is if somehow someone with Ken's politics was the governor and this happened to you, you would be all up in arms about being arrested for your political beliefs, and would want people here including myself to back you up. And despite your hypocrisy, I WOULD back you up - which is what makes your ignorance here so sad.

For anyone who may have had any doubt about the injustice committed with this arrest, ridiculous comments like yours just convince them that hardcore Republicans are authentically authoritarian; an injustice is only an injustice if it happens to someone who thinks like you.

Eddie said...

Anybody have any citable examples of the aggressive comments that Ken Krayeske made?

Anonymous said...

Does anybody remember that the Hartford PD has been in touble recently because of the loose way they certified witness on arrest warrnats? Did that happen in this instance? it certainly appears that it might have.

Anonymous said...

cases like this get nolled every day in court, this guy isn't Nelson Mandela no matter how badly you want a martyr

Anonymous said...

On Thursday I crashed a party ...

The party was a celebration for supporters. You were not invited. What makes you think you can go where you are not invited? If you want to talk to Smokin' Joe, make an appointment. Otherwise, you are a trespasser. Just because you post your drivel doesn't make you better than anyone else.

The Architect said...

matt said:
"It would be nice if there were conservative leaders who would do the right thing instead of just trying to see how much they can get away with."

Right, because liberal leaders are angels from heaven.

bluecoat said...

I think it's reasonable here to compare how mayor Mike (Bloomberg) and Commissioner Kelly handle the occasional and unfortunate but expected gaffes by the NYPD right up front while Rell, Boyle and the trooper union are nowhere o be found the same way they are basically nowhere to be found about the very serious and systemic problems pointed by the NYSP IA. maybe Blumenthal has avdised them to keep shut becasue he's fearful of lawsuits - but that aion't right.

Anonymous said...

Glad to see the architect is still around with karl Rove's wrongs always make it right!!!!

cgg said...

Anon 2:27 said: What makes you think you can go where you are not invited?

You mean other than the fact that they let me in? The location of the party was no secret and the staff at the door let anyone who gave their name in. It's not like I snuck in the back door.

If you want to talk to Smokin' Joe, make an appointment. Otherwise, you are a trespasser.

I didn't want to talk to Joe. I was simply there with someone who did. The only thing that makes the incident interesting is the lengths he went to avoid the possibility of having to speak with me.

Just because you post your drivel doesn't make you better than anyone else.

You are correct. It also doesn't make me scarier than anyone else.

bluecoat said...

cgg: passive aggresive types like anon2:27 aren't interested in listening.

bluecoat said...

2:01: Whether or not ken is a martyr is ahrdly the point. What the point is - at least for me- is why the hell was he held until 1:00AM with bail set and then let loose on a PA? Any coincidence that the Rell ball ended at 1:00AM? No chance that the Hartoprd PD were taking direction form Rell's security detail?

Authentic Connecticut Republican said...

Shadow said...

What?! A harmless guy got arrested for no reason


His own postings would indicate something more than "harmless".

The truly sad thing is if somehow someone with Ken's politics was the governor and this happened to you

It simply wouldn't happen to me.
I don't make it habit to show up anywhere and protest, nor do I associate with people that do.

Certainly I've never indicated any intention of going somewhere uninvited soley to stir up trouble.

bluecoat said...

I agree with ACR wholeheartedly, most people don't announce their intention to commit on a blog. Of course, most people don't beleive the world is flat and that cigarette smoking is good for you.

give me a break said...

CGG-the two instances which you are comparing are entirely different. if there was a party in my honor, i wouldnt want to take time to talk to un-invited (by your own admission) people who i knew didnt like me. why does this sound so crazy to you? Last time i checked, despite your best efforts, Joe Lieberman will be our Senator for the next 6 years so the fact that you think this was done out of fear is laughable. i imagine it was done out of wanting to enjoy himself. seems to me that maybe you should take some advice and moveon.

Shadow said...

> His own postings would indicate something more than "harmless".

You neither cite an example, nor do you address the contradiction: how can big tough Republicans feel physically threatened by a pacifist? What, does Ghandhi make you shiver in your boots, too? This is absurd. How come I have been posting here for months and haven't seen a shred of what you're alluding to?


> I don't make it habit to show up anywhere and protest, nor do I associate with people that do.

So then you think it's OK for the American government to arrest people who protest peacefully? I knew neorepublicanism was already going after freedom of speech and religion, but it looks freedom of assembly hasn't been forgotten either. What happened to the old Republican party that appealed to libertarianism? Oh, that's right... you guys already rounded them up and arrested them.

Authentic Connecticut Republican said...

Shadow said...


You neither cite an example



Whose going to protest the inaugural ball Jan. 3 with me?


>> how can big tough Republicans feel physically threatened by a pacifist?

Republicans aren't all big nor tough. Neither are we hell bent to run other people's lives as non-Republicans seem to so desire. However, to announce an intention to disrupt a PRIVATE event and then complain when that effort is blocked is quite folly.


>> knew neorepublicanism was already going after freedom of speech and religion,

No - you're confused; that's the ACLU.

You can think, say or do whatever you like so long as no force or fraud is involved and property rights are respected. It's quite clear that Ken couldn't keep within those bounds.

MikeCT said...

ACR,

Much as you would wish it were otherwise, protest is not illegal, he was not protesting, he did not disrupt anything, and it was certainly not grounds for addition to a list of threats to the safety of the Governor. Any other paranoid fantasies to share with us?

Fuzzy Turtle said...

It's quite clear that Ken couldn't keep within those bounds. Nothing you have posted indicates that he was going to disrupt a private event. He was in a public place photographing the old bag. He was nowhere near any private event.. nowhere.

HAving Jodi Rell think you're annoying is NOT a crime. At least, it's not on the books yet.

Authentic Connecticut Republican said...

>>protest is not illegal,

Actually, in a non-public setting it's "disturbing the peace" and is illegal.

Ken had already made himself a PIA at Rell campaign stops, then he publically states his intent to disrupt the Gov's Ball (a PRIVATE event) then he dumps his bike and charges towards her.

I guess the police should have waited for him to pull a Sarah Jane Moore or Hinckly in order to "be on the safe side" as it regards his "rights".

Forget it.

While having some escapee from the institute attack a public offical might suit you just fine, it fails to pass muster with normal civilized people.

MikeCT said...

ACR,

There is nothing inherently disruptive or illegal about protest, he never said he was going to go into the event, he was at the parade, not the protest, he was acting as a freelance journalist, he was taking photographs, and he was on the sidewalk when they arrested him. Nothing inappropriate or illegal about his behavior, but there is something innappropriate about imprisoning your electoral opponents on manufactured charges and charging them a wildly exorbitant amount of bail.

I guess the police should have waited for him to pull a Sarah Jane Moore or Hinckly in order to "be on the safe side" as it regards his "rights"....While having some escapee from the institute attack a public offical might suit you just fine, it fails to pass muster with normal civilized people.

Again, thanks for the insight into the totalitarian and paranoid fantasies at the heart of GOP State Central. You've been instructive for all of us.

Anonymous said...

Funny, I betcha if some overexuberant reactionary tried to jump ugly on Barama Obama the bloggers here would give the cops a standing O for leading him off in cuffs

MikeCT said...

Funny, I betcha if some overexuberant reactionary tried to jump ugly on Barama Obama

Yeah, I'd shoot any photographer on sight. Ask questions later. That's the GOP way.

Shadow said...

> ACR said: Neither are we hell bent to run other people's lives as non-Republicans
> seem to so desire.

Yes, everybody but Republicans wants to run people's lives... let's just ignore the last six years that have established the national Republican party into the most authoritarian force in American history. If you really want to make that the modern Republican party still cares about the Constitution, putting politics before the first amendment in this discussion is not the way to do it; furthermore, you're CLEARLY taking every opportunity for a cheap shot against someone whose politics you don't like, calling him "some escapee from the institute"; it doesn't reflect particularly well on your or your party. The national GOP has already been hemorrhaging independents; telling people that all non-Republicans want to run people's lives isn't exactly broadening your tent. Plus, that kind of "everyone's wrong but me" argument sounds paranoid and dumb; I can't imagine trying to tell you that all non-independents have a desire to run other people's lives, and if a Democrat were to say that all non-Democrats want to run other people's lives, I would laugh at them for making such a paranoid and exclusionary generalism, just as I laugh at you now.

As an independent voter, I like having more and better options in the voting booth; in a two major party system, both of those parties better have at least something to offer me, because having just one viable choice is not a democracy. Thus I have always been hopeful that the national Republican party might regroup to save itself, distancing itself from the outright corporate control, neoconservatism, and authoritarianism that has dominated the party in recent years, and returning to its libertarian/fiscally conservative/anti-adventurism roots.

But after seeing a supposedly "moderate" Republican governor engage in police statism, and watching a Republican blogger using it as a chance to take personal shots at Green Party members when they're down, I'm starting to think the only way for you guys to go is the way of the Federalists, and for another major party to emerge elsewhere.

Most young people in this country are like me; they are independent and don't base their votes on lifetime party loyalties. However, our generation is also much more likely to be paying attention than younger people over the last few decades, so we're not going to buy a talking point just because you say so, whether it's from a Democrat who tries to tell us Democrats have never been for the Iraq War, or a Republican who pretends that the modern GOP has not made US more authoritarian that any time in history.

Anonymous said...

cgg- i doubt that lieberman knows who you are or cares. He knew the people who were invited, you were not one of them

Authentic Connecticut Republican said...

The GOP hasn't been up to it's neck banning soft drinks, passing smoking regulations, or funding road blocks.

The GOP is not inclined to support the same totalitarian police state the left wing of the Democratic Party and the Greens both seem to long for.

Anonymous said...

I recall pacifist Ken standing up and trying to shout down either President or Senator Clinton at the JJB dinner a few years back. His brand of 'protesting' there warranted an arrest. In this case, who knows? But lets not pretend that little Kenny had clean hands, for all we know the guy was standing in the middle of the parade route.

Shadow said...

Actually, no, what we know is that the only witness on record contradicts the police. Standing on a sidewalk and taking photos of an elected official from a reasonable distance cannot even be remotely construed as disturbing the peace.


> The GOP hasn't been up to it's neck banning soft drinks, passing smoking regulations

I agree with you there, the Democrats are wrong on the former and have gone too far on the latter. But aren't Republicans in CT the ones pushing for transfat bans, and didn't a Republican mayor start that trend in NYC? Isn't that as bad as soft drinks? And I'm sure you have no problem rescinding all smoking regulations for individual citizens until I start rolling a joint.

So let's see: Republicans are vehemently against anything but complete prohibition of one product, where Democrats are overly restrictive of a much more unhealthy and deadly product (435,000 deaths a year vs. 0 deaths in 5000 years). On restriction of our choice of what to eat and drink, Republicans want transfats out of ALL public restaurants, where Democrats want soft drinks just out of public schools.

So in that analysis, both parties have made choices that offend my libertarian sensibilities, but the Republicans have clearly been worse on both those issues, not to mention a little thing called habeas corpus that we lost not too long ago. Plus there's privacy regarding our phone conversations, our mail, the greatest strengthening of the executive branch in history... I could go on and on...

If you guys want to beat the Democrats in 2008 and preserve the long term future of your party, suck it up, nominate Guiliani, and have him denounce the recent direction of the Republican party when it comes to these authoritarian laws; have him talk about a return to national defense over military adventurism, fiscal conservatism over the most overspending in history, small government over the biggest government in history, and a return to old school Goldwater conservatism and Rockefeller Republicanism. Then you guys actually have a pretty good shot in the general, and more importantly, at beginning to restore credibility back to your party among the electorate. Otherwise, the long road ahead for you guys ahead politically is going to be a very rough one...

CC said...

CGG: Can you confirm that Chris Dodd was at the party? How ridiculous is that!!!

cgg said...

CC: I heard secondhand that Dodd stopped in to the party, but I personally didn't see him there so I can't confirm either way.

Authentic Connecticut Republican said...

Shadow said...
But aren't Republicans in CT the ones pushing for transfat bans, and didn't a Republican mayor start that trend in NYC?



He's almost as good a Republican as Ted Kennedy; poor example.

>>I'm sure you have no problem rescinding all smoking regulations for individual citizens until I start rolling a joint.

Nope - go ahead and roll one, we should've legalized pot around 1970.

For that matter it's almost soley Republicans like Geo. Shultz, Wm. F. Buckley and former NM Gov. Gary Johnson that propose doing exactly that. The so called "drug war" does nothing save for maintain high prices which result in the expected collateral crime plus 87% of all firearm violence in the US.

We could use a lot less regulation, and even as a tea-totaler I can see we've lost our collective minds as it regards drinking and driving. Using even some asthma inhalors can result in a reading above .08.