Tuesday, December 05, 2006

Simmons Considers Another Run

The AP is reporting that Congressman Rob Simmons, who lost to Democrat Joe Courtney by 82 votes last month, is considering running for Congress again in 2008.

From the article:

"When you run the closest race in the country, you have to consider it," Simmons said at the annual legislative breakfast at submarine builder Electric Boat. "It's one of several options. I'm not saying I will do it."


Not a huge surprise here. 50% to 50% is not a huge message to the incumbent that he isn't wanted by any stretch of the imagination. It's no secret that I think Rob is the best Congressman in the country so obviously I hope he goes for it and will support him if he does.

Source:
Simmons Says He'll Consider another Run, December 5, 2006 Associated Press

34 comments:

Anonymous said...

Off topic (though frankly I'm not sure there is any intelligent response to this non-news about simmons), courant is reporting suicide of David Martin, who just ran for state rep in Berlin. Anyone know anything about him?

cgg said...

I bet it would be another close race.

Genghis Conn said...

It would absolutely be close--no question! He has a while to decide, though.

Anonymous said...

Good to hear!

And Anon 329:You arw wrong in this statement: "though frankly I'm not sure there is any intelligent response to this non-news about simmons"

If you are a republican or Simmons supporter, or a Courtney supporter for that matter, it matters. Just because you dont care doesnt mean we dont.

disgruntled_republican said...

He doesn't actually. 6 months or so. You have to have the cogs in place early.

cgg said...

Courtney hasn't even been sworn in and Simmons is already talking on the record about another run. That is indeed newsworthy, especially on a political blog with a community that loves to speculate.

Anonymous said...

Why doesn't Simmons hold out and run against Dodd or some other statewide office. The Republicans (outside of the governor slot) haven't run a credible candidate for statewide office in forever. (Sorry, Joe, you come close but don't quite count.)

Anonymous said...

I don't think it would be a close race. First, Rob lost his incumbent status. It's one thing to lose as a challenger and run again...it's another to get kicked out as an incumbent even if it was only by 80 votes.

Don't forget 08 is a Presidential year bringing a higher voter turnout that benefits Courtney. Joe wins easy and the new majority party wil committ what ever funds are necessary to see to it.

Anonymous said...

Ok, let me take a shot at defending myself.

He lost an incredibly close race. He is relatively young. And he conceded the race in a dignified manner. Of course he will consider running again. I don't think that's newsworthy. Now, if Johnson said the same thing, it would be huge.

Now, I don't think he should run(basically agreeing with anon 3:52), but that's another issue.






Anon 3:29

Anonymous said...

"Higher vote turnout that benefits Courtney"

Not necessarily. First, it depends on who is running for President. For instance, John McCain vs. Hillary Clinton most certainly benefits Simmons. Also, you need to consider how Courtney does the next 2 years. I doubt he will but if he did tank, he's done. You also need to remember that the 2nd is a very free thinking district that has elected Simmons twice in Presidential elections where they voted overwhelmingly for the Democrat candidate.

Anonymous said...

I think he would lose if he were to run again...People in New London obvioulsy don't want that sub base there, after all they came out in force against Rob and his efforts to save the base. My guess is that they are happy about today's news that EB is going to cut 1,000 jobs.

Anonymous said...

Thus far today, both Nancy and Rob have announced their intentions to run again. But did anyone notice… “AP: John Rowland announces 2008 bid for US Senate. – Although there is no Senate seat up for a vote in Connecticut in 2008, Mr. Rowland feels that he may be able to ‘make something happen.’”

Anonymous said...

Trying to make this comment while being as non partisan as possible I would simply say I hope Simmons does run again. I don't care if it is for the 2nd district seat, or for the senate when the next chance comes up.

His close loss in the 2nd district in a year that was more than a perfect storm against Republicans all across the country certainly suggests to me Courtney has no lock on this district.

I happen think Rob Simmons was and still is, one of the most qualified, and hard working persons from either party to hold office. It is not all that often that the voters of one district get to pick between two good choices for congress instead of the two poor choices the other districts in this state gave their voters.

Anonymous said...

Simmons may have won in past Presidential years becasue he carried the title of INCUMBENT. Thats over!

Hillary, Gore, Edwards or Obama all win in Connecticut so either way the Presidential uptick will favor Democrats. Simmons should cut himself a deal in the private sector because 2008 is another big year for the big D's.

Anonymous said...

If Simmons can get a good job with a platform, in either the public or private sector, he will be the leading candidate to challenge JC. The loss was microscopic. Every GOP Town Committee is thinking what if we had just got another three voters to come out? Once Bush is gone, and the War is resolved -- or not resolved -- Simmons is back in play. To suggest JC can't be beat is lunacy.

Anonymous said...

Ned Lamont beat Rob Simmons. Without Lamont, Courtney would have lost in a squeaker.

Rob Simmons is one of the most accessible, hard working, good decent men out there in politics.

If he runs again in 08, there will be significant enthusiasm for his candidacy.

Anonymous said...

There is no public announcement that I saw verifying that NJ was running again. Speculate all you want, but at least base it on something.

Anonymous said...

here-here! Good for Rob!

Rob lost because...

1) Ned Lamont Democrat turnout
2) Anti-Republicain, Anti-Bush tactics.

Rob is a good man, it is a shame he lost his seat through no fault of his own. He is a good man who worked hard for the 2nd district.

It will be interesting to see what Joe C. does in the next two years... Rob just might be back with a vengance.

LitchfieldAngelina said...

Hey, how 'bout Rob Simmons for UN Ambassador for one year -- then he can come back to CT and send JC packing! After McCain win Prez, Simmons can be offered a DC job and JC can win a special election to return to the role of Congressman. Rob Simmons, you rock! If the Dems somehow choose Dodd as their presidential candidate, then that should be a major boost for JC in '08 ...

CTObserver said...

Simmons lost because of UConn. Take a look at Ghengis' maps (and the SOTS final votes). The only town's Joe took by 20% or more are Mansfield (by 2600 votes!!!!), Windham (by 1100 votes)(both basically UConn). New London (by 1500 votes)also played big. Deny the UConn spread by turning out more voters in a presidential year in the rest of the District, and you got yourself a real race.

Gabe said...

Deny the UConn spread by turning out more voters in a presidential year in the rest of the District, and you got yourself a real race.

Why would the rest of the district's turnout increase because of the presidential race, but not UCONN's turnout?

CTObserver said...

They maxed out the UConn Student vote. The overall turnout in the rest of the vote will, proportinately, overtake Mansfield.

Anonymous said...

In fairness and in memory of David Martin, the former Berlin BoE member and recent candidate for State Rep in Berlin/Meriden, I just wanted to say that he always seemed like a driven and decent person who had the knack of being in the wrong place at the wrong time. I did not know him well--he was a year ahead of me at St. Paul's School (K-8) in my earlier years and seemed to be politically interested--he was voted most likely to succeed upon his 'graduation' from 8th grade. Even in those younger years, I clearly recall him being a "Buy American" advocate at that time. I know that the recent meltdown of the Berlin Republican Town Committee, sadly, turned from a difference of opinions and personalities to being a visceral and physical battle between people having extreme disdain for each other--at the middle of which was Mr. Martin. After the 2005 intra-party rumble between Bob Argazzi, Sr. and Mr. Martin, Martin was found near-death on the front lawn of a friend---an apparent attempted suicide. He was able to recover and evidently decided to run for State Rep during the 2006 cycle. However, he was saddled with what was found to be a frivolous sexual harrassment claim that dogged him throughout the race. Obviously he got wallopped.

It's a sad conclusion to a life that seemed very promising early on. Very sad.

Anonymous said...

As a 2nd District resident, there are a lot of people that are upset that stretch limo voters at Eastern and UConn decided the district. These are kids that are not from the district and are not likely to remain in the district after graduation. Will this be an issue in two years? It is hard to tell but the key will be if Courtney does a good job and the base seems safe.

Matt said...

UConn kids in stretch limos? OK, I guess. Seems unlikely, but maybe there were 100 of them.

The thing is, just because someone doesn't own property in the district doesn't mean they aren't eligible to vote. We sorted that out a long time ago here in 'murrica. People who are "upset" that college students decided the race in favor of the challenger should maybe think about reaching out to those voters instead of casting aspersions on them.

I've voted in a different place in each of the last 5 elections, but just because I move somewhat frequently doesn't mean I should be ineligible to choose who represents me in Congress. Whichever elements are propagating the view that student votes are illegitimate should be ashamed of themselves.

Eddie said...

Anon 9:45 is repeating a meme that I've seen here before.

Taking 9:45's logic to its conclusion, anybody who owns property in a retirement village in the South is demonstrating disloyalty to Connecticut and should be forbidden to vote here. And of course, nobody in the armed forces should be allowed to vote anywhere; who knows where any of them will be in two years?

Look for this canard to become the Right wing's latest vote-suppression tactic. Drop a few stories about stretch limos (a little class warfare there) and declare those liberal hordes in Mansfield and Willy to be the enemy within. They're kind of like illegal immigrants, you know.

Anonymous said...

I have heard that Simmons is running for Republican state chair

Wolcottboy said...

Anon 9:40-
Thanks for your comments on David Martin. This should really be a highlighted topic and a separate thread.

That's really unfortunate that someone who could contribute and have the spirit to give back to his town to have been beaten by the magnifying glass theory of people who run for public office.

Anonymous said...

Matt, yes, UCONN kids in limos. Courtney campaign paid for limos to drive around all day picking up UCONN kids and flooding them with Courtney propaganda on the way to the polls.

ct_husky said...

To the best of my knowledge 9:08, the limos weren't provided by the Courtney camp, but by a group on campus. In reality, less voters took the limos than rode the busses that the Undergraduate Student Government rented to take students to the polls all day.

Anonymous said...

"Courtney campaign paid for limos"

It was reported in the Hartford Courant (I' almost positive about that) that the limos were paid for by the Democrat National Committee and from the article, there was quite a large response to them from students. A student spokesman stated that they literally drove around to the bus stops and scooped the kids to vote then brought them to there destinations...

Anonymous said...

Nancy Johnson announced she will run again??? I didn't see that anywhere.

Anonymous said...

Nancy johnson is done, finished and soon out of here She has no chance of making a comeback.

Nice try Republicans But the old bat is done for good.

Anonymous said...

Nancy johnson was done back in 1984 It took the dumbasses of the 6th CD and after 2002 the 5th CD. Many years to figure out she was bamboozling everyone. People woke up and elected Chris Murphy Because of her very hostile and negative ads.

Good riddance to bad rubbish!!!!